kungfoodude

I feel like these words sprayed across the thread title can be shuffled around to mean many things. But what you mean, I have no idea.

Haven't seen any of Carson Strong this year. Maybe he will be the guy I like from this class

@Tommy Jone You son of a bitch.....

Then I guess Sam doesn't get credit for his 5. In that case, he is even more atrocious.

Our OL is probably going to play better with Not Sam Darnold starting, I predict.

I would have no mercy at all on him.

Head hunt that dad bod bitch.

Yeah, this was largely predictable. That does make it so much more upsetting to see it go the way we thought it was going to go.

Yeah, I think there are levels of it. I am not talking about absolute certainty. I just mean someone you truly believe is going to be the answer. If you don't believe that, don't take him. If you don't have a first round grade on him, don't take him in the 1st. That kind of poo. That is really where we differ. I am not talking sure thing, I mean someone you BELIEVE in. Which, we have to be careful that Rhule doesn't talk himself into a bum. It has happened twice already.

Every single thing about him screams used car salesman.

Also, this is the 4th straight year that Darnold hasn't been able to stay healthy am entire season. But we didn't need a real backup QB, of course. And how many games have Elflein and Erving missed so far?

Brady and Robby have their own issues but this is so obviously predominantly Darnold. How many times do you see him bail after one read and start rolling out while his 2md or 3rd read is wide open? It happens way too often. The coaches have basically been telegraphing the fact that he cannot be trusted for 3 weeks now. All that "running the ball more" and all that other BS, that was them admitting they had to take the ball out of his hands. My ultimate guess is that Brady and Rhule are paring down and simplifying the playcalling to make things easier on Darnold to get him going. Then he is just further fuging it up. That dude just does not have any NFL abilities between his ears.

I think we will at least see some splash plays in between insanely poor decisions.

No, I would have taken any of those top 4 in the top 10. Jones I would have considered in the 15 and lower range. He just wasn't high on my board. I think Wilson will end up being the biggest risk guy and Jones will be better than expected. TBD, I mean these guys are in the infancy of their careers.

Oh yeah. Plus....the more I dug into him the more he seemed like a hard working guy with a MAJOR chip on his shoulder that caused him to dig deep to be better. I just think he will work really hard to keep improving every day.

I had the 2021 class as this: Elite 1. Lawrence 2. Lance Near Elite 3. Fields High Risk Gamble 4. Wilson Low Ceiling, High Floor 5. Jones I definitely was much higher on Lance than almost anyone.

I can one up that. I said drafting him would be "...the biggest mistake in franchise history."

Depends on where we are in the draft. If we have the ability to get an elite LT, get him. Of we have the ability to get an elite iOL, get him. If we land in a funny range where we might be reaching and can snag two decent OL prospects by trading down, do that instead. It's gonna be situation dependent, obviously. I would never trade down if there is a top flight OL prospect, however. That is not smart. That is also what I would expect to happen.

I said this would not be a top 10 defense this season.

So he has five years to not win back to back season before you fire him? What if that is 5 straight losing seasons? Still waiting 5?

Depends on the caliber of prospect. QB will always be the #1 priority in the modern NFL. It's the most important position on the field. But if you have an elite OL prospect available and middling QB prospects, you take OL. If you have elite QB and OL prospects available, you take QB. Our issue on the OL cannot be fixed solely by free agency. It will be far, far too expensive. It also isn't going to get fixed in one offseason, the needs are far too many. Ideally, get a great OL prospect in round one this year(provided no elite QB prospect are available) and that is at least a start. Add another above average OL in free agency and now we have some base to work from. Just keep steadily building and investing in the OL(and any othet obvious holes) while you maneuver for an elite QB. Either in free agency, via trade or through the draft. But, both situations have to change. You can't have a bottom tier OL and the worst QB in the NFL. That won't work anywhere.

He is quite literally one of the worst I have ever seen at it. It's crazy. The craziest part? There was three years of film showing the same thing under two different offensive coordinators.

Same as this one.

Plus, Teddy played far better in front of the same line(basically) and in the same offense. That is as damning as anything.