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Meanwhile Denzel Perryman.....

Well you whiffed on Herbert too. We may have to send you to the Matt Rhule Seminar for QB and OL Evaluation.

I am gonna needle you about that until he proves me wrong. If so, feel free to give it back. Still very down on this class. Hopefully Cam is The Guy for next season and we can focus on that OL.

Emezie cannot get an ounce of separation at the college level and he is not an elite route runner. Those guys are a dime a dozen. Having above average hands and looking like a football player isn't gonna get him far in the NFL. Just because you produced in college doesn't make you an NFL player. This is the most common mistake that almost ALL college football fans make. That and having a little too much homer in them(ask @LinvilleGorge).

I don't think you ask for "final say on personnel" when you are getting hired and then hand over QB personnel decisions to an OC you don't have any ties to. At the end of the day, personnel decisions are all Rhule. Coaching decisions are all Rhule. The decision to hire Rhule.....all Tepper.

I have been a part of countless large corporate entities. Whenever there is widespread chaos or dissatisfaction, it is almost always problems with upper management.

Goes right back into the "WTF are they doing" personnel decision bank. Rhule and Co. specialize in head scratching choices. I guess the one positive is that they seem to figure it out eventually.

Darnold did a hell of a Pickles impression.

Yeah, unless we lose out. If we do....sharpen the axes and get the torches.

Too much jumping off a cliff for one game. If he stinks for a couple of more games after this, then worry

The WTF's interior duo was moving the line of scrimmage on a consistent basis. For the bulk of the game, our dudes were on skates.

Was literally at the game with my buddy questioning that. Gilmore is the shut down dude, just put him on TM and call it a day.

I am not ready to say he is a bust but our young DL are not really developing well(Brown, Burns, YGM). Not super impressed with the staff's ability to maximize the potential of our young players in general.

The amount of dumb takes in this thread is hilarious.

Except you had issues being impartial about Darnold.

Huge victory and amazing play yet again by Andersen. Next three opponents aren't nearly as tough. This may be a very fruitful WC tour.

Plus by the time you have made it to the NFL, you have likely been exposed to elements of all of this for a decade or more. Everyone is gonna have an adjustment period but it isn't like taking The Golden Calf of Bristol and trying to make him a TE in Jacksonville. He had to learn EVERYTHING.

I mean, for all the vitriol thrown his way it was glaringly obvious that he was and is a genuinely good person.

Darnold is a very odd case because more people than normal(even in the media and football knowledgeable talking heads) seemed fooled by him. I really don't get why that happened because it SEEMED so obvious. But the narrative became that it was Gase and that was what everyone just seemed to go with. It was very strange.

At the end of the day(from the Darnold Doubt contingent) all of us wanted to be proven wrong because it makes the Panthers better. If he works out, we get a massive steal. But, the signs were obvious and, unfortunately, they proved to be what they appeared. It is what it is. I am elated to see Cam back and although I doubt he is our long term answer, it sure is nice to have him back in the building and back on the team. I think for the real Panthers fans, it was something we needed to see some closure with him. Even if last game was the peak, that was somehow enough for me.

We hope so. I will let it all play out before I start saying what is or isn't possible. This GM is all about wheeling and dealing, that we know. If someone can get a deal done, it is probably him.

We don't know where we will be picking.

It does happen for non-QB's, as well. It is all dependent on scenario.

It isn't particularly hard. Happens almost every draft at least once.