kungfoodude

Yeah, we will get a lot more of an idea about Corral IF we get a competent OC and a QB coach capable of developing him well. If those things happen, you should be able to tell after 2023 what his future is here because of how he is being treated as a prospect by the staff and FO. Not how he will turn out but at least we should have obvious indicators on what we think of him. That is next to impossible at the moment because of the Rhule/McAdoo situation.

I think the old chart is just out of date when it comes to trading up for QB's. It doesn't help when you see the Stafford and Wilson trades either. Overall the draft pick value of elite QB's or QB prospects has skyrocketed. I would generally probably just pass on a massive trade up, even if it were for someone like Young. The penalty for missing on that pick is so unbelievably massive. It's at least a 4 year skid right out of the gate and potentially far longer. All while missing out on adding more elite talent with premium position picks.

Panthers Stockholm Syndrome is in full effect. The people that want him back at anything more than a short, minimum contract deal are out of their minds. Next we are gonna see threads about how Ben McAdoo really wasn't a bad OC and we should extend him.

Yeah, TCU is scrappy but Duggan was terrible in that game.

These types of comparisons are why people have wildly unreasonable expectations. 24 is young for an NFL QB, rookie or not. When people objected to a 29 year old Chris Wienke, that was understandable.

It's something we have neglected forever.

It's a good strategy, IMO.

Fair enough.

Care to make a wager?

You are aware that Baker Mayfield basically did this, right? Like....this season? Also....Cam Newton did this for us last year. Young is very capable of winning an NFL game with a week of prep....provided that he has a good head coach and OC making a gameplan that allows him to be successful. That happens all the time with actual rookie QB's that need to have pared down offenses initially.

We would be nuts to get rid of Pineiro.

Yeah, he literally probably would if we didn't have a complete moron as an OC.

It's gonna be interesting if TCU drags UM and then Georgia loses.

Curious to see what the scouting community says about him towards draft time.

Tua had durability concerns in college too. We will see how it all shakes out.

Yeah, he is gonna a be a very successful NFL player, IMO.

I honestly don't think there will actually be much of a discussion at the end of the day. IMO, the majority of NFL FO's view him as the top guy and probably have for a while.

There are a bunch of people here that would rather have Darnold than Bryce Young, somehow. This place is really something.

Kurt's wife looks like she is in some sci-fi movie. That is some wild fuging hair.

Sometimes it does. It generally favors more creative coaches, that is for sure.

IDK. We will see. A lot can change with a month to prepare for a game.

He was the better of the Montana brothers but ended up addicted to donut holes which led to diabetes.

Yeah and he struggled a LOT with processing the field in college, so that shouldn't be a surprise that he is struggling with that at the NFL level. He is a longer term project. If he hasn't shown anything by year 4, then you can probably chalk that up as a failed project.