kungfoodude

He is a poor man's Ryan Fitzpatrick. Yes he can get hot for stretches but more playing time reveals he is a backup QB only.

He is a bum. Anyone who had seen NFL QB's for more than a couple of seasons can easily ID that.

Not saying you are wrong but Baker had a ton of success prior to us and Darnold was a massive bust. Basically the best he has ever been was last season on an insanely loaded roster with an insanely loaded coaching staff. He is a bum.

One could argue the same for Goff(far better than Jimmy G, mind you). I think fans often get enamored with the Tier 2 and even Tier 3 QB's at times. Hell, portions of our fanbase are STILL fooled by Sam Darnold, despite him bombing so badly here.

I would counter that although he is certainly not Hurts/Jackson, Purdy is pretty mobile. Surprisingly so, at times.

100%. I may not think a lot of him as a player but I am happy for him as a person for getting that bag. Especially as Mr. Irrelevant. Great story, even if he doesn't get to the ultimate NFL heights.

I don't think people here want to be in QB purgatory. We have been pining for a superstar like Cam again.

I mean....his 2025 cap figure was like $5 mil. This smacks of bad reporting, TBQH.

Not sure where you are getting that from. That is a $53 mil AAV which would be in the back half of the top 10 in pay.

This is the thing that most Panthers fans can't comprehend because we are a franchise that so rarely ever has draft success. Also, this one is still largely in question. If Tremble never really improves, he is a JAG. If Horn doesn't stay healthy or ascend, he was a bust. Then it goes from an okay draft by Panthers standards to just another bad Rhule/Fitterer draft. It's also such a strange period to be grasping at straws to try and justify as being good. Hindsight has thoroughly proven the architects of that era as being wholly incompetent if not outright charlatans.

Yeah, I mean Goff is a 2nd tier QB too. Odds are he will never see Superb Owl success either.

Oh, that was pretty obvious. IMO, he needs to prove he is healthy and prove he is actually a top 5 CB. The people that are already calling that shot are just absolutely delusional, IMO.

Hubbard and BC have "made it", IMO. Tremble and Horn, TBD.

I think Purdy has earned JAG+ status. Debatable 2nd or 3rd tier guy.

They are already starting to have to make moves and re-tool. TBD if that will be successful or not. I will say, all things considered, this isn't a terrible contract. Way better than I was expecting it to be. Would have been better around $45-50 mil AAV. Curious to see the structure.

Can't wait until that ***** Mikko gets ousted from the playoffs.

Why? That's very good production. Pretty much equivalent to the sum of DJ Moore's first three seasons.

If your scheme is only at it's best when you have elite players across the board, how good of a scheme is it? How good of a coach are you? George Seifert ring a bell?

We are in the era of young, impact WR's immediately popping. This isn't the era where it was rare to see a 1st round WR make an impact for 2-3 seasons. If Tmac doesn't look good in year 1(barring injury or just general offensive woes), that probably isn't a very good sign for his NFL future.

Hence why I said the interesting question would be coach vs. QB. really. Could you get a good enough HC that could turn this around or possibly draw a top flight QB to him?

TBH, the difference between this team with and without a completely healthy Barkley is probably +/-1 game.

Not to say we haven't been fuged by the NBA just like a lot of the other small market teams like what just transpired but when we have had the ability to get a star or superstar, we have largely flubbed it royally. Jordan cast a massive shadow over the organization with his horrific talent evaluations for years and years.

To be fair, historically we have overperformed our lottery slot(in terms of probability) and had a pretty significant hand in making very poor draft picks for a long time.

We will see if there is any logic to those sort of packages. I haven't seen a ton of evidence that Evero operates that way.