kungfoodude

This makes even less sense when you describe what you meant. The NFL Draft isn't Madden.

Another player blaming others, much like the coach. Yes, that "culture" is showing up now. I see it.

I don't think you need to build the OL first, you need to take good players. The far, far, far better players are at OL. And, yes, great QB prospects will be there in the future. They don't stop making those, although you sometimes get drafts like 2022 where there isn't one. I am sure more than one team will overdraft a QB. It literally happens almost every year.

We are never going to agree because you believe taking a QB, regardless of ability, is the right move. It's a move the fails very often and one that bad franchises are well known for. I get the theory behind what you are saying but in practice it doesn't work out very often. I say don't reach on a prospect. If you have the best QB in this draft as a late first round or second round grade, then you draft accordingly. Hence why I would avoid these QB's with our pick.

Lol. Why would the Eagles trade their picks to only go up to #6? That makes no sense at all.

Same. He's an excellent player and exactly the type of guy I expect them to pick instead of an offensive lineman. Or maybe we will overdraft a guy like Jordan Davis to fix our run D. Whatever we do, I am sure it won't be the right move. That I am convinced of after the past two first round drafts.

The bigger reason and more likely reason is that he has no fuging clue what he is doing.

Funny thing about teams who have no idea what they are doing, they are frequently wrong.

Since 2019, 6 QB's have started games for us. Since 2018(the era where we officially went full Browns, IMO), we have started 7 QB's.

Don't be surprised if we take Kyle Hamilton. Not kidding

Yep and in their search for a QB, in which they had no idea what they were doing, they looked exactly like we do. Taking a 1st round QB in the 2022 draft would just be another Cleveland Browns vintage move.

We have the chance to draft an elite OL talent. So just be prepared for that not to happen.

No. No they can't. Name a single example of a QB being this level of bust and resurrecting their career.

They were bad because they had no fuging clue what they were doing as a franchise and paraded QB after QB out there to fail. Fun fact, we've had more QB's start games than they did during the beginning of that stretch.

Rhule now 1-7 in December and Jan.

It's 1000% working. You just can't see it.

Just one more year and Sam will get it figured out. I promise.

Sam is the tank commander we need.

The Browns is only a bad example because at this point in their run from 1999-2017, they had a lot more success than we have had. Make no mistake, we are the Cleveland Browns, circa 99-17.

Yeah, that was terrible.

6th. That is probably where we finish. We really had a good shot at 5th today but the Jets poo the bed

I was told by some in here that the team hadn't given up.

Nailed it.

How long into the offseason before Nixon is formally hired as OC?

What we are doing is working. You just can't see it.