kungfoodude

I agree with this but I do think we aren't likely to see a Cam Newton era pass bombing in the cards. I don't think that's really the structure of Canales offense at all.

Yeah, Maye is playing great but I don't think the end of year discussion is going to be either the Pats being good nor the Maye being an MVP candidate. I think the schedule so far has a lot to do with that. Which, I am pretty sure their current SOS is 31st, so perhaps this does also continue.

Actually, we did not play badly on defense. Special teams was what directly led to that unholy ass whipping.

I wouldn't call the Pats good, either. Their wins were against teams that have a combined 12-23 record. Including three wins against 1-6 teams.

Yeah, the more we see of Sanders the more I am convinced that his short good streak from last year was the outlier. Most of his career so far he has been underwhelming. Oh well, if Evans keeps producing and playing well, no matter.

Allen is/was basically that guy. He played the most like Cam I have ever seen but he also changed the way he played the game specifically for longevity. Also not the level of athlete Cam was either.

Well they both were/are starters. Wasn't after Tua specifically but just an example of a starter that a team is ready to move on from. It's not realistic after I looked at the cap situation. Miami would get flattened with dead cap.

The length of time I am unsure of. I don't know that I really expect him to get worn down like I think some seem to believe. I just don't think people should have unrealistic expectations about the results. I generally expect a small dip in TO's and a noticeable jump in passing production and deep targets(15+ yards). Not dramatic, just noticeable. I really don't think this offense is truthfully built around a bunch of deep shots. Certainly not the way some seem to be expecting, anyway.

Yeah, Bryce's real eye popping plays are pretty few. Most of his real positive stuff is largely just "adequate" for an NFL starting QB.

I think the wailing and gnashing of teeth over Dalton is more than a bit hyperbolic. I expect him to be a slight improvement over Bryce but not some savior that's going to march us Nick Foles like to some divisional glory. He should perform adequately enough that he won't be the sole reason we are losing games. That's my expectation.

I would caution that PURELY stats is not a completely conclusive argument against a 5th year for Bryce. Looking at the whole picture does seem fairly conclusive in my personal opinion. All that being said, I really do think the wheels will have to come completely off Bryce the remainder of the year for them to NOT pick up the 5th this offseason. I also think if he misses significant time with injury is hampered by this injury it's going to create a lot of mental gymnastics in that FO/Ownership circle to get us to picking that 5th up. Not what I would do but I fully expect it to happen.

I mean.....everyone is happy about his one good game but....we do want more than one good game per season. He does actually have to do that to prove any of that post wrong.

I don't think we would actually play Hooker but hopefully we also just don't see. I don't view Dalton/Bryce as a worse option than Winston/Howell. I just think we disagree on this specific subject is all.

My prediction(before the season) was Canales gone at some point during the 2026 season and Dan fired before the 2027 offseason.

It's not realistic. If that were the case, a guy like Watson would already be on the street. You can't torpedo the future of the team for "fug this guy specifically." It's very bad business.

I don't think we will agree on this situation with those players specifically. I don't view them as winning QB's and in fact they mostly lose.

Tua's contract situation immediately makes all Tua discussions a nonstarter. For us AND them. You would be asking them to incur an almost $100 mil dead cap charge.

I mean....adding Winston/Howell is utterly discarding the remaining season. They are great tank commanders but not much else.

Different mindset entirely. Gunslingers have the penultimate faith that they can make every throw, no matter the window nor the situation. Bryce is definitively not that guy. If you increased his throws to 40-50/game(which he has had those games) its far more likely to just result in a bunch of 5-10 yard throws. Not testing coverages deep where you can get into more trouble.

It's also during the season so anyone in the discussion of being substantially better than Young is not gonna be on the table without a serious asking price, most likely. If the trade deadline lasted until the end of the season, we might at least get to take advantage of some active sellers. That COULD happen by Nov. 4th still.

I don't think it's a real stretch what I am saying. We can certainly, and rightfully so, question the actual evaluation abilities of those in the organization but they are literally around these guys in drills, practices, etc, etc for months and months every year. It shouldn't be a surprise that they have a significantly higher idea of said players abilities just because of that level of access.

I really don't think Tepper will can him even if we literally lose all the remaining games. Now, going into next year that seat might be pretty fuging toasty. I think he is pretty safe to be here opening day 2026.

Yeah but that's also a fan centric mindset. The team has a better idea of what they have because they literally watch them in practices every single week. Not a 1 to 1 scenario, obviously, but THEY are much more aware of the overall capabilities than we are. I generally disagree with the notion that a Winston or Howell type really gives a much better platform to evaluate anything. Plus, if you see the training wheels they are putting on Bryce, how big do you think those training wheels are gonna be for a brand new QB with literally no time in the offense? If anything, that's likely a more closed playbook than we have at the moment.

I don't think there is just some secret level to this playbook that isn't getting called. I am pretty sure we are pretty much seeing Canales offense.

Well DJ Moore had a parade of mediocre to bad QB's after Cam's arm died. Did his budding career suddenly go to poo? I think you are fairly dramatically overrating the idea that development for a WR hinges on "certain types of throws." That's really a very minimal thing versus the bigger issue(IMO) of just having resources that are largely being squandered to the detriment of your overall offense. Bryce's lack of success pushing the ball deep absolutely creates that. But those ills aren't going to be solved by just bringing in a guy that consistently puts you in huge holes with crazy TO's. Getting a functionally BETTER QB will solve almost all the issues with the passing game. Unfortunately, that's just gonna be a tough ask during the season. That's really an offseason fix and we just didn't choose to do that this past offseason. We are now reaping that.