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We have telegraphed our intentions about as poorly as any team I have ever seen under the Tepper ownership

IMO, 70% player, 30% team.

Someone posted his entire 1 hour video here. It's really good. He breaks down all his top 5. Also mentions that he really doesn't see any of them as 1st rounders.

IMO, Pickett/Corrall are late 1sts, Willis is a 2nd and the others are 3rd or lower.

I am not sure that Detroit goes that way.

Maybe not that bad.

This has to be one of the most nonsensical takes in Huddle history.

The question is how desperate will teams be to get a QB and will that desperation lead them to taking a QB early? For our team, it appears the answer is yes. However not all NFL teams are as desperate and stupid as we are. Not to mention that guys like Mayfield and Jimmy G may make the market skew depending on where they go. Lamar was also viewed as kind of a one trick pony by a lot of NFL types. Willis isn't the athlete nor was he the QB Jackson was in college. I mean, hitch your bandwagon to whichever of these guys you want but I suspect it's gonna be a pretty sobering bunch to look at in 3-4 seasons. Outside of Pickett and Corrall, I am not sure I see a guy sticking around as even a potential starter at that point.

Planning based on outliers is what Marty Hurney and Matt Rhule try to do. It doesn't work because it's stupid. This site wasn't screaming Herbert was terrible. That was a few loud voices. There were plenty of us saying he was the best guy in that class.

Yeah, I think the difference is that Willis being at the top of the round may or may not happen. It's also possible he is a mid to late 1st rounder.

This is almost universally regarded by scouts, NFL teams, bobble heads, draf5 guys and ex-players as being a bad QB class. It isn't just missing a star, it's largely missing starting caliber NFL players.

Jackson's speed was undeniable. The speculation about other positions is not a reason to not test. If someone wants him to play WR or RB then he is looking at 4th round or later. That's not reality. I have always thought that was agent nonsense when that gets brought up for first or second round players. Either way, it was just weird more than anything. The reasons to be down on him largely have to do with his ability to play QB, not run.

Physically I generally agree although he was not a perfect prospect, even still. When you read more and more quotes from him, it just didn't really seem like he necessarily NEEDED football in his life. I remember one quote specifically that he mentioned that he didn't have to have football in his life(or something similar). Smart general mindset but in the NFL to succeed at the highest level, you largely need to be extremely motivated to be better and better at football. I might have been grasping at straws but he just had a few quotes that made me wonder about his will to be the best he can be.

I can say this, Sunshine never really gave me the impression that he loved football or needed football. He just happened to be really fuging good at it. I did have some concerns about him being able to mentally get to that next level in the NFL.

So you are saying we don't have any legit QB's.

I can definitively and decisively say maybe.

He never had much credibility, he was just the first draft guy that existed on the draft network, so he became a name. Way more people with way more credibility than he has now. People with actual football background.

We won't know because Willis didn't do anything at the combine. If you remember, Wilson's athletic ability was eye opening at the combine. I am actually pretty perplexed that Willis didn't run or do any of the testing. I don't really take that as a positive, although I don't doubt he is a good athlete. Perhaps he just isn't a great athlete. He definitely wasn't running away from a lot of P5 guys.

Lol. Says the guy who still believes in Sam Darnold. Prepping for the Easter Bunny to come also?

Well, everyone except @LinvilleGorge

Given that he didn't run at the combine. I would be inclined to believe he likely doesn't run a particularly fast 40 time. Not to say he isn't still quite athletic but I suspect he isn't as fast as people think he is.

Anyone who thought that was a good trade is just straight delusional at this point.