kungfoodude

There isn't gambling. Gambling is drafting based on need and not grade. If you don't think one of these QB's is going to be elite, you don't take them at 6. That's the math. Take the best combination of need and best player that suits the team. You don't reach for a need or reach for a player if you don't think they will be elite. IMO, none of these QB's are worth taking in the 1st round because they are all very long shots to being elite QB's. So, if it's me, no chance I take one at six, no matter how much we need them. 2nd or 3rd round? Sure, we can gamble there. This draft success quite literally hinges on our 6th because we are unlikely to get anything out of the remaining picks(barring a trade down scenario). So, if it's me, I don't dummy this up and get cute. Take a player that is likely to be elite and preferably at a position of real need. If you want to make panic moves, Jimmy G and Baker are likely to be available after the draft.

25% is too much to believe on Twatter.

Yeah, well I just don't agree with pretty much the bulk of that. Horn was a good pick(although not the right pick). Outside of Horn, it's just a bunch of depth and JAGS. Not a great showing for having the most picks in the draft. Like I said, history and just extremely simple statistics show that banking your success on 4th rounders to UDFA's is just plain dumb.

We tried to do this last year when a lot of teams wanted to move up and we wanted too much. Why would this be more likely to happen this year? Who are the can't miss trade up prospects? And if they fall, why wouldn't we just take them? IMO, this is basically a fantasy scenario. If you have a QB you like(and I have no idea why that would be the case in 2022), take him at 6. If you have a LT you like, take him at 6. If you have another player you believe is elite, take him at 6. If you don't believe any of those things and you think the difference between 6 and 32 is minimal then trade down. Otherwise you are just trying to win some sort of PFF spreadsheet title for no obvious reason.

Good Lord....if you are banking on 4th rounders to UDFA's, you may as well just hang it up. That was our shitty strategy last draft that didn't work out.

Trading up is usually driven by the chance to snag a QB or an elite player. If the top DE's and LT's are off the board, who is there to trade up for? And who is giving up a real haul?? I think this idea is fun to thing about but much harder to pull off. Consider that we were in prime trade down territory last year and wanted too much. That was with two QB's on the board. I suspect that we will see that again but that we are reduced to having to waste a pick at 6 on a poor quality QB prospect.

Yeah, the odds of just simply being able to magically trade down in the span of the time we have picked is fuging moronic. Even if we have an existing deal in place, the other team could just start to negotiate for a lower price because at that point we'd just be fuged. I think if we trade down it will be before the draft.

Horn is probably the only one I see from last year that will end up as an impact player in the last class. There are some potential depth guys but that seems to be about it.

I did tons of stupid poo without getting caught and basically did nothing and ended up in prison. Sometimes it just is what it is.

Mixing with ginger....eh...not a preference personally. Give me what you consider cheap and I will make some suggestions. Also, state where you reside. Odd question but sadly that does matter for bourbon availability.

I would rather wave the white flag than take a QB at 6.

I wasn't ready to ride with him last season but at this point I would rather we take our medicine, get rid of this shitty coach and not hamstring the future of our franchise based on this dumbasses decisions. Worst case scenario, we end up with another top 10 pick.

Yeah, I mean it is cute that most of these players played but very few made significant impacts. We passed up on impact, day one starters for projects or luxury picks. That was our 2021 draft. If you see an opportunity to get a QB in this draft, I mean....God bless is all I have to say. I suppose there are improvements over Darnold and Walker but if that is the bar, we could have accomplished that in the first day of free agency.

The people that think Fitterer is a genius need to examine our moves. It isn't all peaches and cream. He may actually be part of the problem and not the solution. I hope not. We all hope not. Because the answers are limited if he is also an idiot like Rhule is. At that point, the hopes for the Panthers are just basically tied to how long Tepper is alive or wants to keep the franchise.

Likewise. Look, he was obviously being dumb and he got caught. It's nothing crazy. Just being dumb. If he keeps being dumb, it's a problem. He's a kid, he is allowed to have at least 1-2 relatively minor dumbs. Better than being dumb and killing someone(recent Las Vegas incidents).

Well, I think we got a little too excited about signings that were absolutely improvements but not exactly Pro Bowl/All Pro caliber players. More like we upgrade a couple of spots closer to NFL average. Remember improvement doesn't mean we are going to be good, just better. Which....I am fine with better. If both of our signings are just better, it's at least a starting point. Last offseason was making it worse.

Yeah, he's also 23 years old. You remember 23 year old @rayzor? I definitely don't remember being super smart about poo like that back then.

Remember the 2020 and 2021 QB plans? So....you know the plan was Watson in 2022, right? That was Plan A, Plan B and Plan C.

The people wanting to draft a QB at 6 are probably also the people who thought Darnold was basically a rookie.

Don't overthink it. Don't try to fix it all in one fell swoop. The QB fix is over for 2022. It didn't happen. Wilson, Watson, etc. Also whiffed on QB's of the same caliber as the best of this draft(Trubisky, Taylor, Brissett, etc). Don't trade down, take the best OT on the board or best DE on the board. Trading down is just begging to fug this up....again. Just like 2021, consistently fuging up our draft.

No.....just....no.

Anyone comparing Baker and Cam is foolish. Cam was a great teammate and at times a superstar. Baker can't even hold Jake Delhomme's jock at the moment.

I can't fix your delusions.

Calling Cam done as a starter is not hate, it's reality. I love the guy to death but his days as a full time starter in the NFL are over and he knows that, hence why he said he is okay being a backup. I am sure that was a difficult pill to swallow but it just is what it is. He was never the same player after all those injuries.

Cam offers some great benefits as a teammate in general but this idea that he is going to come in and turn a young QB into a success are ridiculous. Cam's drive made him a success. If we need to have a guy like Cam come in and mold a new QB, they probably just aren't going to work out well anyway. And I don't mean that Cam can't help a young QB. Not saying that at all but people really go to far with the idea and expectation.