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Jones would likely just look like Jacksonville or late stage New England versions of himself again. Not terrible but below average to average.

Caserio is a smart personnel guy. They aren't going to be moving on from Stroud unless he collapses the rest of this year and next year too. I don't think they will hesitate at all to pick up that 5th year option this offseason. AR will definitely not get picked up and I wouldn't be surprised to see us pass on the 5th too.

No. They let talent walk because they have a LOT of big contracts and they can't afford them all. If you look at their drafting, it's been stellar so it really is a transitional period. Don't get me wrong, I hope they collapse. I fuging hate them. But, that's not really the reality, sadly. It would be a hilarious thing for him to attempt to hold out. It wouldn't work, they would just put Purdy back in and roll out as if nothing happened. They are similar level players. I will be curious to see if they opt to trade him in the offseason and get some draft capital. I would if I were the 49ers.

That's not really a physical attribute. That's purely part of the "brain" aspect is what I mean. There is no physical reason that he cannot throw an accurate pass.

He has had a shoulder injury the entire season. Probably should not be playing at all.

Overpaying for Jones would be a trade and that would be lightspeed stupid. Also, there isn't a dramatic difference between the New England, Jacksonville and SF versions of Mac Jones. The biggest differences are Kyle Shanahan and the SF roster versus the poo he had with New England and Jax.

That's actually nuts what you are saying. The backups to Corbett and Moton at OG and RT are demonstrably worse than they are. By any available metric or film study known to mankind. We don't need them on the bench.

He's just a slightly worse version of Dan Snyder. Same ego, same hubris. I just don't think you completely understand how people wired like him tend to think outside their area of expertise. If you ever have a chance to be around a bunch of them, you will see what I mean. 99% of all of this franchises troubles are David Tepper based.

TBH, they are in a transitional period with their core, so I don't think it will be a big setback for them. Especially when you look at the structure. They have a pretty early out on the contract.

Canales getting outcoached by two new HC's is a sign, fellas.

I look at the young bust QB and draft QB as and/or options WITH an established veteran. Doesn't have to be a world beater of a vet. Brissett, Tyrod, Minshew, just a reasonable middling manager QB that can be relied on to not overwhelmingly fug it up.

Murray is better but I don't think he has much passion for being a great football player. He's only an option in my book if he is cheap, which I don't think will be the case in his first trip to free agency and/or a second team. Geno would be about as old as Dalton when we brought him in. He ain't a spring chicken. Would have to be cheap, again.

This is exactly the kind of offseason plan I would have. Get some varied options. Don't rest on our laurels with one decision that is likely to be bad.

I really don't think there are other areas of the playbook. This is the offense. Bryce can't make throws but this is the offense. I also think you are making some "coachability" assumptions with the young bust QB's. Howell is most likely just as not coachable as Winston. Just the kind of QB they are. Greatest strength is their greatest weakness. Hard to change that. The other guys(Lance/Levis) COULD possibly be someone that could develop but I generally would never put all or even most of my eggs in that basket. Get a legit veteran in here and let them continue to develop on a bench. That's where they belong until they are actually up to NFL speed.

Yeah, that fits with our current HC and his nonsense. IDGAF about the religiosity BS if it isn't rooted in some sort of scammy nonsense(see Rhule, Matt). Canales does smell like that kind of guy.

Look at contracts, several of these guys will not be available because of the cap damage getting rid of them will cause. Not going to go over it again. Also, Justin Fields is one of the very few NFL QB's who is actually a downgrade from Bryce. Geno or Murray would be interesting options, should they become available. I will say that we would have to likely give either of them a very large contract just to lure them here IF they become free agents.

I don't care about draft position. We picked #1 overall and it was a fuging disaster. We don't struggle with draft position, we struggle with talent evaluations. Just get a better QB. If the best option is 40+, whatever. We need to build a real team that has any fuging clue about what winning looks like and do it while continually improving this roster so that one day when "The Guy" eventually shows up, we can win from day 1. As I have stated over and over, with the lower tier options likely available in free agency and the draft, I would take some of Column A and Column B and maybe even Column C. Just spam options and see what happens. Better than just sitting on our hands and hoping Bryce will get hit with a dose of gamma radiation turning him into QB Hulk.

Trevor has regressed at an alarming speed. You can see Coen visibly frustrated with him during games. Reminds me of Steichen on the sidelines with AR. I will admit that Trevor, although a definite upgrade, would be 100x more infuriating because he literally has zero reason to be as bad as he is. He has almost every elite box checked outside athlete and brain.

Yeah, he is one of the biggest QB busts of my lifetime watching the NFL. Not because he's JaMarcus/Leaf terrible because he was one of the rare "generational" tag guys that ended up being a significantly below average NFL starter. I have always had the sneaking suspicion that he doesn't really have the passion for football at the NFL level.

Bridgewater probably could have been that guy for us. Just be competent until the real answer arrives. People railed against it saying we would never be in position to get another Cam. Then we trade up to get to that position in a panic and end up with Bryce. Grass ain't always greener and Rome wasn't built in a day. 1. Continue to build a good roster. 2. Attempt to upgrade the QB position, even if just incrementally. 3. Keep drafting QB's in the late rounds. 4. Don't be afraid of BPA if it is a QB in the 1st or 2nd at some point but don't reach. If you can do that, eventually you will either become a solid spot for an older veteran QB, you will land a Geno Smith type or you will land "The Guy" through the draft. It's not a quick fix but most of the quick fixes we have attempted under Tepper made us dramatically worse.

I don't know who is or isn't but what I do know is this roster is very short on players that even know what NFL success looks like. That's a problem immediately.

Admitting mistakes. Tepper is utterly incapable of that. He doesn't view his fug ups as mistakes, he most likely views them as others faults for convincing him or not accomplishing what they should have. It's not his fault, it's THEIR fault for failing him.

That's why I immediately bristle in regular life when I hear randos extoling the "genius" of a lot of the technocrat class without actually understanding the realities of those people.

I mean....show me the list of guys that have been in strong locker rooms in the first place? Moton? Wharton? JJ? Mitchell? Corbett? Lewis? Nijman? Robinson? Dalton? Dowdle? Brown III? Rozeboom? Wonnum? Jones? King of Pop? Scott? Martin? Moore? Hunt? Pretty sure that is the entire list of players on our roster who have experienced more than 1 winning season in their NFL careers. Not a joke. Notice how many are backups or special teams.

IDC what flavor of coaching background, just don't hire an obvious scam artists(Rhule) or people in way over their heads(Rhule/Canales) or head coaches that you give a list of people they have to hire(Reich). We have made just about every possible mistake hiring a head coach. Whatever your instincts are, Dave, immediately do the exact opposite.