kungfoodude

Brother, that is simply not true.

BYU having a full meltdown.

I think we would really have to break the bank on him.

Honestly, the biggest issue I have with him is that he hasn't seemed to have been a guy that elevates a defense, even going back to Denver. So, if I always have to assemble an elite defense to make him have elite results....is he actually a great defensive coach?

Nice chunk of high level NFL prospects in this TT/BYU game, FWIW.

I think you should always endeavor to be better at every position you can. Him playing better does give you the ability to not be panicked about getting that slot filled in the offseason. I do think we should be trying to draft his eventual replacement.

And, does he want to return here after we didn't allow him to interview with the Rams? This will actually be one of the most interesting offseason storylines for us.

I am not against spending top dollar for top pass rushing talent but it needs to make sense at the time. I definitely don't think Hendrickson makes ANY sense for us given age and where we are as a franchise. Phillips does make some sense as a younger guy but, again, we are in the infancy of our roster building comparatively. Why blow a ton of money on free agents every offseason? We spent a lot the last two offseasons on veteran free agents to some success but a chunk of these guys may never see the completed result of our building. Overall I agree. Be selective about free agents, especially in premium positions. The one big credit I will give Morgan is that he seems to be building younger. That is very smart.

On the TE tip, that was why I was so perturbed about our decision to pass up on very good TE's several times in this past draft. This was a STACKED TE class. Guys like Fannin, Taylor, Gadsden, etc were serious needle movers(in my eyes) and they were a few of the guys that have provided instant impact, as well. I wasn't a big fan of the Evans pick and although he has drastically exceeded my expectations we did pass on a legit offensive weapon in Gadsden who is ehat we tried to get and largely have failed in Sanders. Honestly, considering the early success for the 2025 class, I don't want to be too harsh but I am always annoyed that our FO never seems to take players at a position of need when the classes are very strong or definitely whiff on the better players(Evans/Etienne). It's absolutely mind boggling we keep doing it. I am with you on upgrading at TE, though. Tremble is a fine player, I am happy to have him but he has probably come pretty close to what he is going to be. Sanders just doesn't appear to really have appreciably developed much. If he can't develop some overall consistency by the end of 2026 or make some step forward, I would classify him as largely a lost cause. Evans I have liked the potential of but he has played only 35% of the snaps on offense. I can't understand why he gets so many less snaps than a guy like Sanders. I know they are used differently but it isn't like Sanders is being targeted a ton. He has 30 targets compared to Evans 18 in WAY more snaps.

I think ideally you make your decision early in the offseason. I say that so that we can attempt to move Bryce early while he still might have some minimal amount of value left(Rosen scenario). Alternatively, as you stated, see what happens in free agency and the draft, then decide to move him or not, which would likely be tied to that 5th year decision. My take on how this ultimately goes is that we don't make a move at QB(we stay with Bryce/Dalton), we don't draft a QB and we pick up the 5th. No serious extension talks, though. I think they go partially in on Bryce but not all-in.

My ultimate GUESS is that the core decision makers are fairly aligned on thought process regarding Bryce. My take is that is largely dictated by the ownership and everyone else is just marching to the beat of that drum. I would be surprised if they are off the bandwagon yet. I think the improvements over last season for the team overall are going to drive decision making that leads us to staying committed to Bryce.

I mean, but there is ample evidence that exists currently in the NFL and historically that if you have a talented or moderately talented team then one of the biggest upgrades you can make is at QB. It yields the biggest returns. I don't think even Prime Greg Olsen is going to make Bryce suddenly look like a stud QB. We have invested immense amounts of money on the OL and tremendous amounts of draft resources on WR's. And have added an additional extremely capable RB. At some point, the main problem is Bryce. We are at that point. That being said, we don't need to go "Full Bryce" again and sell the farm to upgrade at QB. Be intelligent and patient. Try to get better by whatever means become available WHILE continuing to make the roster better. At the bare minimum, you slowly build an upper half of the NFL talented roster that is at least a potential draw for some free agent QB's. IMO, Bryce is clearly not the answer. I don't think anyone in our organization thinks that way but if they do, it's not the end of the world. Throw as many reasonable darts as you can through free agency and the draft until either you get a bullseye or a top 10-15 option becomes available in free agency.

I think it's fairly clear he is not dedicated to being an NFL player. We don't have the time and luxury of being able to wait until his 5th year of the NFL for him to start to figure it out much like it took in college. He is just another in a long line of Panthers WR flops. We should all be very familiar with the symptoms of that at this point.

All you can control is the opponents in front of you. Besides, I would rather see a regular G5 participant in the playoffs than a C-Tier P4 team that conclusively proved they couldn't win when it mattered.

Eh....not sure that but I don't think they will be realistic options. It would be nice but unlikely.

Who knows the options? I am just saying Evero likely has all the leverage here.

About the same as your XL fanboyism is. Get that TMJ jersey out for the next game.

Fair enough. I also prefer to call a player what they are. But, I'm sure your faith in Jonathan Mingo will be rewarded in the XFL.

Understand, you were one of those guys. Thanks for confirming. But, by all means, continue to be wrong about "WR's just needing more time" despite literally the past 10+ years of draft data indicating otherwise.

The difference is that I am not a coward that will conveniently "forget" or deny all the times I was wrong like people like yourself. Oddly, I was very right about TMac, Funchess, TMJ and Mingo. Let me guess, you thought those last three "just needed more time." If fact, were you one of the lightspeed idiots that said we would regret trading Mingo to the Cowboys? I seem to recall you were.

Looked into it and this is the last year of his deal. I would be very surprised if he either doesn't leave or completely bends them over a barrel on a contract extension.

They are all ultimately backup tier QB's, at best. My assertion is that Fields is worse than Bryce BECAUSE of those insane physical abilities but I have beaten that horse plenty enough. Chicago was smart to move on after three seasons while Fields had a tiny amount of value. I suspect Bryce will not have that when/if we decide to move him.

I think that is what he is saying, he may be gone anyway.

You mean minus about the last 10 years of the NFL and WR's? This is old school WR mentality when it definitely was true that rookie WR's took a considerable amount of time to adjust. This isn't that time period. Unless you are still waiting because Funchess, TMJ and Mingo "just haven't been given enough time yet."

Depends on draft position.