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I mean.....that appears to be the Matt Rhule strategy too.

A lot of those first three games was smoke and mirrors, TBH. It didn't take long for opponents to figure out what we were doing and proceed to dominate us for almost the entire remainder of the season. Sam starting would be a disaster for us(the fans) because the chances of winning consistently will likely be small. But, on the positive side, Rhule should be shown the door relatively quickly in the offseason. Well.....I hope. If we have another disaster season and we keep Rhule.....it's time to start protesting at the stadium.

I have my doubts about that. Statistically he has struggled the most with a clean pocket.

Yeah, my guess is he is looking for one last cash grab, so I don't know if he will get it here. I will be generally perturbed if it is in the 8 figures range of pay for a single season. $6-9 mil for one year is fine with me.

In fairness, this does sound similar to our offseason last year in bolstering the DL that netted mixed results. Even with Dunlap being added, I would be pretty surprised to see us field an elite DL in 2022. A modest improvement would be nice and should be the minimum expectation.

Well it is much more understandable than that. He knows he is on the hot seat and could get fired. So he doesn't REALLY care about the future if he isn't in it. Dunlap is a short term boost for the team and it definitely will improve the defense. Will he be around for this "7 year plan?" Absolutely not.

Better at this point in his career than Allen was.

It's not about putting the defense on his back. We literally lack pass rushers. TBH, Dunlap would probably be our best all-around DE if he signed with us. I don't want to see a long term or high priced deal but he would immediately make our defense better.

FTFY

@Tommy Jone They callin' you.

Listen, I don't know what is triggering you specifically but it's probably not something I am saying, it's something you believe I am saying. Also, I think your opinion of Curtis is much higher than is warranted. He's never really proven to be much more than a 2nd or 3rd WR on a team. You can't utilize him as a primary target any more than Ted Ginn could be. They are complimentary weapons to an offense, not guys that can carry that load. Primarily because they are typically extremely inconsistent players. Curtis Samuel is a great example of that. His production has been all over the map his entire career(some of that is injuries, obviously). Robby has been much more consistent, albeit generally pretty underwhelming. Also, Curtis has very little of the RAC ability that Deebo does. In fact of the three WR's, Curtis has the lowest YAC/R of any of them. That was actually something he was rather criticized for here, if you recall. And don't use that "only 25 years old" argument. That is shades of Darnold apologists.

I mean, I guess if you mean yelling at Sam Darnold, I guess so. Or complaining about the fans booing. But if you really cared, you wouldn't be pondering retirement because you have to go back to work. If there is any more clear indication of someone that either hates their job(which is possible given the level of dysfunction in our franchise) or doesn't love the sport anymore.

It happens to a lot of players. Some of them just aren't as passionate about football as they are other interests. It's not a slur, it's just that plenty of professional athletes happen to be very good at what they do but they might not be passionate about what they do. If you look at guys like Cam, TD, Luke, Steve Smith, etc.....those guys are driven to be the best. They work constantly to excel and get better because that's just in them. But there are way more players that aren't driven like that. We've had plenty of those. Those guys aren't rare in the NFL. It doesn't mean they are necessarily wrong any more than your co-worker who is just a mediocre employee is wrong. It's just a job to them. They aren't driven to be the best at what they do. For Robby, I don't get that impression that he strives to excel at what he does. This is just a means to an end. Look at someone like Horn, who is constantly training with other elite DB's and picking their brains. Constantly working to get better and improve. That guy is very likely to be successful(barring any major injury issues) because he's driven to do so.

You know, I never knew someone would put "worst coach in franchise history" so far out of reach.

I mean....do you blame us? How many times do has that happened to us versus other teams? We have ample cases of paying the wrong players these contracts. It's a Panthers tradition.

I am starting to question how much he wants to be a good player versus just being a guy that cashes a check. Seems like mostly the latter. Not rare but not a guy I would have invested the money that we did in him.

First, calm down Curtis, I am not insulting you. Chill out for a minute. As far as superior WR....eh.....that's definitely debatable. Samuel is a much more versatile weapon but he's even more inconsistent than Robby over the span of his career. Also, his most successful season(by a wide margin) was when he was used more like Deebo Samuel than anything like a traditional WR. He's not the same player and when we tried to use him like Robby Anderson, he was extremely unsuccessful. Robby has been far better being a traditional WR/deep threat versus a gadget player like Samuel. Hence why I said they could easily co-exist in the same offense. Their ideal usage is entirely different.

I don't know what to think. He was a guy I thought was gonna be an immediate impact player in 2021. But, right now Samuel is a far better player(until proven otherwise).

He's pretty much better than any player not named DJ Moore or Robby Anderson. None of the rest of those players would compare at all.

Classic example of someone being on social media too much. Either that or Robby is a low key troll.

If he does retire, just remember that this is a "Rhule guy."

Memes aside, he's an idiot. He isn't retiring after signing that deal he just did. Not until he gets the bulk of that money secured.

In theory he should be far better than TMJ. Not sure he fits what we are doing now on offense, however. TBD.

I mean.....you saw the money he got right? I'd say it was pretty smart.