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This is about as hard as @SizzleBuzz blows Tepper. Just remember to mind the stepchildren while gargling.

That was just a rumor, it may be completely untrue.

Yeah, I think the Browns are also potentially trying to keep him out of the division, so cutting him this year may not be preferable.

Yep. It's when the bullets are live that Sam falls apart. If the light suddenly came on this deep into his career, it would be the outlier of all outliers.

Well they don't have long into the season due to the trade deadline.

There is no real reason for Cleveland to cut him. They owe him all the money so they would be better off telling him to sit at the house the whole season than cutting him and letting another team jump on a deal with him.

Okay. I thought it was sarcastic. I was going to point out his cheerleading status in those victories.

INB4 5 year Baker Mayfield contract extension before he ever plays a down.

Ask the 49ers about that.

Who do I think? 1. Darnold 2. Mayfield 3. Corral Who do I want? 1. Corral 2. Mayfield 3. Pj Walker 4. The new transgender cheerleader 5. David Newton 6. Vinny Testaverde 7. The ghost of Bart Starr 8. JaMarcus Russell 9. The Golden Calf of Bristol 10. Sam Darnold

GODDAMMIT.

FTFY

That's PFF rankings, which are somewhat imperfect. Plus they are limited to recent memory and not historically. IIRC, if you look at the FO rankings(which span a longer period as well) the unit was eclipsed in it's futility by at least another 2-4 Panthers OL's. Even if you look at raw statistics like QB Pressures, sacks, rushing average, etc....this wasn't the Panthers worst. Nor the NFL's worst last season. We just get myopic about it because we had to watch this poo week after week. I will never agree on Corral or any young QB. I don't subscribe to the kid gloves doctrine because I don't believe it matters at all. You are either gonna make it or you aren't. Peyton Manning looked like dogshit when he started right away. Still ended up a HOF player. Brees looked like a bust initially when he played right away. Still ended up as a HOFer. Conversely you can put mediocre QB's in amazing situations and they will fail. See Jimmy Garoppolo.

We literally weren't even the worst OL in the NFL, much less the worst in Panthers history. And, no, I am not buying into starting Darnold......ever. I literally don't want to see him again on the field in this uniform. He is a bottom 3 starting QB in franchise history. I don't want to see him cement a #1 status. Joe Burrow has gotten the fuging poo kicked out of him the past two seasons. If Corral is broken by a bad to mediocre OL, he was probably never gonna be the guy. fug the kid gloves, if the motherfuger can play, let him play. He's a late 3rd round pick, figure it the fug out.

We deserve it. The fall from 2015 to now has been unreal.

Start him. Don't be a fuging pussy, Rhule. Make it happen.

Yeah but that point of view was very obviously stupid regarding Darnold. I mean....it was painfully obvious it wasn't a coaching or talent issue. It was that he didn't understand what he was seeing. But, yes, we definitely should not be expecting better than his best efforts in Cleveland for Baker. At best, he is just not watching a guy that has no business in the NFL.

I assume this is a joke?

He has a ceiling. If we went Jimmy G as a long term guy, it's basically acknowledging that we aren't going to see a Super Bowl or definitely not win one. He can bring some stability but he has a ceiling that doesn't include NFL champion.

That is how I would have ranked them even without this nice breakdown. Kudos on that, BTW. 1. Jimmy G - Quality game managing NFL starter 2. Baker M - Middling, inconsistent gunslinger. Borderline NFL starter. 3. Sam Darnold - NFL backup, at best. Likely out of the league in the next 2-3 seasons.

Playing these guys more in minicamp isn't going to be the difference between a winning season or a losing season. Also, there is no reason to go full, old school "make 'em practice 'till they puke." That a bunch of old dumb mentality. It doesn't make you tougher. If you aren't tough now having ascended to the NFL....you just aren't tough.

I genuinely don't believe it would be a competition at all. One of those guys is an subpar NFL starter and one is not an NFL player at all. The results may be fairly similar but one is going to look like he at least understands what is going on in front of him. He just chooses to make unwise gambles. The other guy can't figure out what he is seeing and freezes.