kungfoodude

Yeah, if we beat most expectations and do well next season that would make that change.

Yeah, the NFL is one of the toughest professional leagues to project three years out. The year to year roster flux is worse than most leagues.

And after this season, he may be on his way out. The result of this season could dramatically alter what his career is here, especially if he isn't an instant impact guy.

It seems like more of a "heat" check on direction based on where we are now. But if you look they have our coaching, drafting and FO rated fairly low. So I can see where they justify that poor outlook. Admittedly, most Huddlers would probably also agree we aren't a franchise trending in a good direction. But, like you said, we could have a completely new coaching staff, front office and QB next season. Our situation is so close to dramatically changing that it's hard to out too much stock in it.

Yeah and that is a fair point. He is only on our roster for one of the next three years. Only Corral is on the roster in three years by contract. So 28th might be generous when you consider that.

Yeah and I don't see anyone below him on that list that is CLEARLY better than he is.

Well, you might be able to say that about some top 12 guys too. That remains to be seen. It's possible that our situation is bad enough that very few QB's could drag us to contender status. If next season is the same disaster we have seen under the current staff, I would tend to lean that way.

I forgot that Trubisky wasn't on the Bills anymore. He might be a starter. I guess it depends on the progress of Pickett.

Trubisky and Jimmy G aren't starters. Mariota is not a lock as a starter.

Most of those guys aren't starters, though. Still, if we out a comprehensive lost up, I bet most would rate him higher than 28. Maybe that would be an interesting thread. Put up a list of the starting QB's(with the open jobs grouped as a unit) and see where Huddlers rank him.

I don't know how much better but I would hope better than 28th. Seems like at least top 25. The actual rankings versus what was said was very strange.

Yeah, that had me scratching my head too. It felt like back handed compliments.

31. Carolina Panthers Overall score: 69.0 CATEGORY SCORE NFL RANK Overall roster (minus QB) 73.8 26 Quarterback 65.5 28 Coaching 60.8 32 Draft 73.5 27 Front office 70.8 31 Why they're here: The Panthers' defense is terrific, and that alone gives some reason for optimism. But two question marks persist for this franchise: the long-term solution under center (even after the Baker Mayfield deal) and the future of coach Matt Rhule. Rhule was handed a seven-year contract when he took over in Carolina, but there appears to be a lot of pressure on him and the franchise to take a leap this season. Mayfield, like Sam Darnold, is under contract for only one more season. -- Yates Biggest worry: Who will be coaching the Panthers beyond 2022? This team appears desperate and doesn't seem to have a great plan for how to manage the QB position, and that usually results in people losing their jobs. -- Riddick What could change for the better: This is not the worst roster in the league. Far from it. The quarterback issues cloud a quality talent base. But the offensive line must improve, which the team has worked tirelessly on, drafting Ikem Ekwonu and signing Bradley Bozeman and Austin Corbett. Linebacker needs upgrades, with multiple starters having bounced around the league. But Carolina's outlook isn't as dire as it looks. -- Fowler Stat to know: Matt Corral recorded back-to-back top-10 QBR seasons over the past two years in college (89.9 and 80.5). If there's a reason to have long-term hope in him as a solution at QB, it's that: He was a productive college QB for multiple years. Carolina has Mayfield and Darnold in the fold, but Corral could be part of the future plans under center. -- Walder

Yeah....there are ample things to criticize about the guy but that isn't one of them.

So about that development.....

That's precisely how you build a terrible franchise. Overpaying for players that really don't want to be there outside the money.

Current history is not kind to spending wildly on safeties. I agree. Like the player but the price needs to be low and his contract demands probably don't make sense for a roster like ours.

Literally everything you say is Fake News. You are a walking fact free zone.

This is stretching towards mental illness, TBQH. How you felt the need to make this about Baker Mayfield just shows how much space he has in your head at the moment.

Hogwash.

Yeah. They wanted to get ahead of the narrative before it turned on them. I am sure they share some small part if the allegations are true, so they decided to make the wise business and get ahead of that.

No and I imagine there isn't much mutual interest in a deal.

Someone please crudely photoshop a Baker Mayfield/Icky Ekwonu "The Bodyguard" poster.