kungfoodude

Well there are a lot of TE's recently who haven't taken that time to develop at all so I think that you might be looking at this specifically through the lens of a Panthers fan only. Our TE struggles are really our own making for the most part. This mirrors the WR's that have been successful in the past 10+ years.

Good. That game was boring. Also, fug the 49ers.

Yeah, I am really not understanding that "longest adjustment period" thing. I think that might be something Panthers fans would think because we really never have any of our TE's ever develop. I agree he shouldn't be playing but it is what it is.

I think they heard you.

Well he owes one for the fumble, technically.

I mean that he looks utterly and completely lost. He doesn't seem to understand much of his role in most facets. I will disagree on the long turnaround. Frankly, he kind of looks like this is just not gonna be his thing.

Not sure who is playing worse, Geno or DK.

SF has weapons out the ass but can't do poo in the red zone.

I still think this year will be a referendum on Shanahan and Purdy. I know they are banged up but they have a lot less reasons to be 2-3 than we do to be 1-4.

Sanders has been Bryce Young-esque.

Yeah, I just don't recall that specific issue. I have seen him get off balance a few times but not any struggles with handing off assignments in that scenario. I would like to see them.

Do you have some examples of this?

100%. Plus we traded up to get him. Poor kid. We really fuged him hard.

I can't agree with that rosy a take but Morgan, unfortunately for him, carries the baggage of having been here through the worst era in franchise history under Fitterer. He deserves some rope but much like when Rhule was the GM while Fitterer was here, it's hard to erase that stink unless you are successful. So far his pro personnel moves seem to be decent. The draft....oooof....Fitterer-esque. We will see what happens but Morgan is on a short leash because he was here when we made some unbelievably bad roster/draft moves.

Sure but there is no magical new starting defense out there to be gained. We don't want to fall into the same Rhule/Fitterer trap again and freak out to make a bunch of personnel moves that borrow from the future to "fix" the now. It is what it is. Embrace the suck and evaluate people for 2025.

Listen, when you are talking raiding practice squads for starters, the game is up. It's all over. There is no urgency to making this better. It's time to just ride it out and until the offseason.

I am not going to pay attention if he does. It's a bunch of performative horseshit.

Yeah, you guys need look at how badly we fare when we blitz. It's rough.

Well he tried to leave and we blocked the interviews soooo....

That's basically saying he has no competitive drive or pride in his work. I don't think you are gonna see many scenarios in the NFL like that.

I love Cam but his addition isn't going to get me to watch Hot Take.

Well there isn't going to be a real benefit to making the move midseason other than to make this an even more less attractive spot than it already is. There isn't going to be any real improvement even if we did. What evaluation is there to be made? On a bunch of PS players? Just let it be what it is and when the season is over evaluate what you want to do moving forward.

Fight??? Sheeeit. We are down to the "just happy to be here" MFers on that side of the ball.

There is literally no point in firing him this season. The season is long gone. It was over before it started. If they want to evaluate him after the season, so be it but firing him mid-season isn't going to net any benefits that actually impact the game outcomes. This is a historically bad defense. That's who they are.

We dropped from 26th and 27th in the NFL in TO's forced the previous two years to 32nd last year(currently 16th this year). We dropped from 39 sacks and 35 sacks in the previous two years to 27 sacks last season(on pace for 21 sacks this year). Also if you look at the stats when we Blitz versus don't blitz over the past two seasons, we get ANNIHILATED in the passing game versus running our normal scheme. I mean, it is fuging UGLY the difference. Also generate way more sacks.