kungfoodude

Holy poo what a start.

His 2026 salary would also include a $4.8 mil roster bonus. That is guaranteed money.

Because they are bad team, have one of the worst starting QB's in the past five years and also very poorly coached? Also....they are the Jets?

I view him as IOL Brady Christensen. Draft a legit center, keep him as a long term valuable backup.

This is the weekly reminder how much ESPN duped everyone into buying into Arch Manning.

Corbett at OG is fine. Not at center, though.

And even some of these "elite" programs have a suspect history of QB development.

Yeah, as someone said earlier, go find a Lincoln Riley or another great QB coach to help you develop.

You will see. Despite your faith in Fields, he will show you.

You are an odd duck, sir.

Nah. Especially with the NIL. Get the college money and develop properly.

I mean, there is quite literally almost no category that Bryce is behind Fields in with regards to passing. I am not creating anything new, those are their career averages passing the ball. I really don't care if Fields is great running the ball because he is fuging atrocious passing the ball. He is basically a poor man's The Golden Calf of Bristol/Taysom Hill. He's a gimmick player that should probably be playing special teams primarily. I get that you hate Bryce Young intensely but to just attempt to invent some scenario where Fields is a "more productive" passer is kind of laughable. To that note, Fields has had one career season out of five in which he has averaged more passing yards/GM than Bryce's worst season in that category.

His football IQ is very low. He needs a lot of reps and a good QB school.

Because he is not a Panthers fan. He is a Bryce only fan.

Sellers would be nuts to leave school. He needs a LOT of seasoning. Tons of potential but he need at least a year or two more.

Well, I arguing that from the perspective of IF he has a good season. Which, he has not so far.

I think if you aren't planning on picking up his 5th year option, you move him prior to that date. Otherwise, there isn't much reason to keep him on the roster, IMO.

If you are talking QB rating perhaps but Young has been a considerably more productive passing QB than Fields. If you look at their 17 game career averages it's pretty obvious. Young: 60.5%, 17 TD, 11 INT, 178.6 Passing Yds Fields: 61.5%, 15 TD, 10 INT, 156.0 Passing Yds I don't think people have still yet accepted how insanely bad Justin Fields is. He is genuinely worse as a QB than Bryce. That's pretty terrible considering how much more physically gifted he is than Bryce.

I agree but that offseason deadline makes that difficult.

I think we do have a QB edge but it's a sinking and floating turds argument. Fields is only dangerous because our LB's are the worst in the NFL and our pass rush isn't far behind. If we give him time, he is gonna make us pay with his legs.

Disagree with a couple but very good list.

The hubris in those early quotes is insane in hindsight. It's Matt Rhule level cringeworthy.

If there isn't even incremental progression over the course of this season, much less next season, I am just not sure how you roll with him in year 5. But, $30 mil(est) is not an insignificant amount albeit fairly modest by elite QB price tag standards. The biggest issue with all this, as someone astutely pointed out in the thread previously, is that we have to make that 5th year decision this coming offseason. So if we get the projected season he is on track for(3250 yds passing, 165 yds rushing, 31 total TD's, 22 total TO's). Is that gonna be enough to satisfy everyone he is on the rise? Let's say that we even finish within spitting distance of .500?

No, I mean even that comparison this far in is kind of insulting to LaFell. He was just a better overall player at this point in their careers. The thing thaf is concerning is that he appears to not be struggling with a 1st or 2nd round WR typical issues, he seems to be struggling with an undrafted free agent or practice squad player level issues. How to even become an NFL caliber player and how to raise your play to the level to be on an NFL roster. It's the simplest stuff that he isn't seemingly capable of doing.

We are bottom 2 or 3 in the NFL in TE production. Luckily, they have Justin Fields as their QB. He is one of the few starting QB's in the NFL worse than Bryce. Now if Tyrod gets subbed in, we might be in trouble.