kungfoodude

I don't think there are many real Bryce stans just stubborn folks that don't want to go through it all again. But we will. IMO, the writing is on the wall. Bryce may improve but he isn't gonna be a franchise caliber QB.

I mean look at our drafting. We are a team that bases way too much of its decisions on those outliers.

I mean, brother it's been more like 7.5 years. Ain't poo changed.

The Rico thing is so obvious. And we so obviously won't do it.

Oh look, it's Kyle Allen.

Eh....surely you didn't buy into that BS? I damn sure didn't. Taking credit for Baker fuging Mayfield. What a fuging joke.

General tone of the thread. Probably shouldn't have quoted you directly. Not to mention, this White kid has a career 6.8 Yds IAY. Bryce is 7.7. That is not even an upgrade in targets down the field. It's literally a downgrade.

So you guys are pining over Hendon Hooker and fuging Mike White??? That's insane. Literally. All of us want better and hope that happens but asking to watch 3 incomplete 40+ yard passes a game while getting blasted by 20+ points is not the sort of panacea I think any reasonable fan wants to witness. I'd rather limp along with that anchor in Bryce Young than watch the rebirth of the Wienkie/Clausen eras, thanks. At least until something actually, REALLY better comes along. Jesus Christ. Some of you guys might need to take a break from the NFL for a while if this is the type of poo in your heads.

Yeah, so could Matt Corral and Will Grier. JaMarcus Russell too. How is that working out for them? I am far from a Bryce fan but the obsession over these long bombs is literally completely absurd.

I mean, White is certainly capable as losing a game as badly as Plummer, no doubt. Same with Hooker.

I don't think it's down. We are largely just laughing, rightfully so, at anyone thinking this is more than a PS move or emergency backup.

I also think Justin Fields sucks. A lot. But if he was my employee there is not chance I am trashing him in front of the media for just not being good. I am gonna be lighting up the MFer who decided that was a good personnel decision. IN PRIVATE.

Good decisions, IMO.

He is having a good year. On pace for his second double digit sack season of his now 7 year career. This is the peak of his career so he SHOULD be producing at his contract level. Not upset that we aren't tied to an almost $30 mil contract. TBH, Horn and Brown have been better core players.

I mean....that would be nice.

IDK if they will get fired but it would be a bad look. I do think Tepper will give DC until mid-next year to get results acceptable to him, whatever the fug that might be.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/46673558/jets-owner-defends-coach-glenn-blames-winless-start-qb-fields Whew. Tepper does have some competition for worst owner.

You are talking about a tanking scenario. That's not really what I would think we would want to end the year on with the morale actually being pretty good for the first time in a while, so it seems. Hooker will definitely assure that no more close games or wins happen.

Ewers is basically a long term project and an older guy at that. He doesn't really help us much in the next couple of seasons at the bare minimum, so I don't see how he fits anything that we need nor justifies a spot on the 53 man roster.

I would disagree about how many "good" QB's are in this draft. Not really one I would say that is worth investing draft capital on a QB in the first three rounds. We will see closer to the draft.

I don't think I would expect a lot more stretching the field. Just quicker decision making.

Well CMC was rarely the reason we were winning or losing games. Hence why you don't generally pay a RB that kind of coin. Not to mention he was insanely injury prone. He still is. It was just a poor investment we rightfully pivoted from. And then immediately squandered all the resources we received in return and made the team worse. You know, Tepper Panthers style!

That is where I do sometimes get annoyed with the tanking crowd at the end of every year. Draft position can help a lot, it definitely can. But good evaluation will overwhelmingly outshine draft positioning every single fuging time. It's why I rage against the "development" guys so much. I agree we don't develop players well, I get it. But that problem PALES in comparison to the evaluation issues we have.

It's funny how quickly people forget the "I wish we drafted like *insert successful NFL team*" comments during the season when the offseason hits. Then it's fire everyone, cut everyone, draft this RAS God, etc, etc. Look at how common it is for ALL those teams we talked about to be taking top players at their positions consistently throughout most drafts. BPA, high value guys. Constantly. They aren't reaching or trading up for the XL's, DJ Johnson's or the like. They make more smart decisions than dumb ones. It's that fuging simple.