kungfoodude

He seems like a players coach to a fault. Just wants everyone to like him.

I would heavily disagree. Canales inability to take advantage of the 31st ranked rush defense was solely his doing. Andy definitely aided heavily in that loss but the utter lack of in game adjustments and the refusal to use offensively personnel in an logical manner is his own doing.

I personally see more Hopkins than Evans but if he gets close to either, I will be very happy.

I was going to say his ceiling is Hopkins. That's the style of WR he is.

Plus the XL thing, Corbett over Mays, etc. He just doesn't want to play his best guys where they fit best. We are not merit based. At all.

This is the way I view it completely. He. Stinks.

Wharton is playing out of position. Evero is a lightspeed idiot, IMO.

I honestly think a far better QB would just end up exposing Canales much more significantly.

I would probably attribute something closer to 70% of the problems with DC and his playcalling.

I think we got blown off the map because of Canales. I think that game could have been a lot more competitive.

I don't think we are a good enough roster to rush that. If there is a true answer available and the price makes sense, sure. But sure answers at QB are rarely ever available in the NFL.

I am not arguing the talent disparity. This is still the 2nd worst roster in franchise history, only behind the 2024 roster. But DC is consistently a problem.

I agree we are starting off from a lower point than Ron, by a wide margin. But all too often DC is one of the top few reasons we are losing these games. I am not seeing much in the way of adapting.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQU8kRRAdLd/?igsh=Nml1MjVtdDF4Nnlw Still here somehow.

I am fine drafting a QB but we do need to be realistic about this upcoming draft class. More than likely, a great/good QB option may not be available at our pick. It's looking like an extremely weak QB class. It might be a better idea to make that move late, as this class does seem to be heavy with guys with attributes but a lot of warts. I would hate to miss out on a valuable contributor and potentially core member on another QB reach. Play the board. BPA. Get better as an overall team.

I suspect his polished nature was the sort of thing that pushed the right buttons for a Wall Street bro like Tepper.

He has been in the NFL since 2010 in some coaching or staff capacity. That's a fairly length of career for him to need a big learning curve. Now, I will say that not everyone learns as quickly as say a Sean McVay(7 total years as an NFL coach/staff member prior to HC). I think most likely he probably got pulled up the ranks too quickly from OC to HC. He probably needed to be in the position for several more years to even determine if he was adept that at.

Well Ron did have a 9 year playing career that cannot be understated. But he was an NFL coach/staff member in some capacity for about 13 years before taking our HC job, 6 as a DC. By comparision, DC has been an NFL coach/staff member in some capacity for 14 years prior to taking our HC job, only 1 as an OC. So, in theory, Dave really shouldn't be super far behind the curve when compared to Ron. Although, I think Ron obviously had a much better grasp of what it takes to be a successful NFL player/Coach.

Ron's two seasons he took to figure it out would be massive successes compared to the 2018-Present period. Those 6 and 7 win seasons look pretty great now. Do you honestly think he will jump up to a 10+ win year in 2026? That's what Ron did.

You might want to look at that table again. Round 2 has the least QB's taken in that time period. What is more interesting is how the "darts at a dart board" happens in the 6th and 7th round. Those are the 2nd and 3rd most frequently drafted rounds for NFL QB's. If you are strictly using my criteria for "success" it does lend credence to that not being an awful strategy. At 17-21% chance to get a bare minimum of 30+ starts OR a 5+ year career. That's pretty good for a very throwaway pick. I don't know how that would compare to other positions. I would maybe have to adapt what I have done to something like PFR's Career AV to set a line that accomplished roughly the same result as I have from the spreadsheet. If I can get to a number value, applying this to each position wouldn't be that hard. Not sure how "fair" that is without making some adjustment based on averages for each position. I would have to do that as well, I think. A positional "handicap" of sorts.

I suspect regardless of QB playing you will see 3+ total TO's from the QB position versus one of the past pass rushing attacks in the NFL and a very weakened offensive line.

I think he gets minimally outcoached frequently. That doesn't get enough air time.

No, I take no account at all for college production. It has no value to NFL success. What you did before the NFL is irrelevant. That would be more of an "expectation vs. result" thing. That's SUPER difficult to quantify and going to be extremely subjective. It's not about predicting future success, I am just trying to show which NFL Draft Rounds generally have more "success" drafting a QB. The way it is currently built and using the 1994-2018 dataset this is the result using my criteria:

As an initial test, I applied your 1st round criteria to that group(65 QB's of which 32 passed my "success" criteria). As an ADDITIONAL component to the original criteria it added: Chad Pennington, Sam Bradford, The Golden Calf of Bristol, Marcus Mariota As a REQUIREMENT for BOTH it, Added: Chad Pennington, Sam Bradford, Marcus Mariota Removed: Trent Dilfer, Steve McNair, Kerry Collins, Donovan McNabb, Daunte Culpepper, Michael Vick, Byron Leftwich, Eli Manning, Vince Young, Jay Cutler, Joe Flacco, Cam Newton, Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III, Jameis Winston, Sam Darnold Remaining after: Peyton Manning, Chad Pennington, Carson Palmer, Philip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger, Alex Smith, Aaron Rodgers, Matt Ryan, Matt Stafford, Sam Bradford, Ryan Tannehill, Teddy Bridgewater, Marcus Mariota, Jared Goff, Carson Wentz, Mitchell Trubisky, Patrick Mahomes, Deshaun Watson, Baker Mayfield, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson As an EITHER/OR REQUIREMENT component to the original criteria it, Added: Chad Pennington, Sam Bradford, The Golden Calf of Bristol, Marcus Mariota Removed: Trent Dilfer, Steve McNair, Kerry Collins, Byron Leftwich, Vince Young, Jameis Winston Remaining after: Peyton Manning, Donovan McNabb, Daunte Culpepper, Chad Pennington, Michael Vick, Carson Palmer, Eli Manning, Philip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger, Alex Smith, Aaron Rodgers, Jay Cutler, Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, Matt Stafford, Sam Bradford, The Golden Calf of Bristol, Cam Newton, Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III, Ryan Tannehill, Teddy Bridgewater, Marcus Mariota, Jared Goff, Carson Wentz, Mitchell Trubisky, Patrick Mahomes, Deshaun Watson, Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson Conclusion: Of the different ways that I attempted to include the 1st round criteria it essentially adds some backup QB's or guys that were out of the league VERY quickly at the expense of some players that had by almost all measures very, very successful careers. I would say that is going to be a difficult requirement to add because of the people that get either added or subtracted as a result. Take a look at the results and give me your thoughts.

Any significant time on just about any social media platform makes you realize how the world has been trending the way it has. There are a lot more stupid people than most realized and now they have global clubhouses.