kungfoodude

That's fine but if you don't figure it out until 5-6 years into the NFL what does it matter if you came in at 22? That is basically my point, it depends on overall development time whether you are 20 or 29.

Murray is not only better than Bryce but fairly significantly so. Both of those QB's have had significantly better careers to date and are still better QB's than Bryce.

That was the first time in NFL history the same player has had more than one TO on a single possession.

I think that depends on how quickly they adjust. That wouldn't be different if he had been drafted at 22.

I mean both Murray and Brissett are better than Bryce.

The more banged up they are, the better for us. We just have to capitalize on their weaknesses.

I have no idea what we would decide to do or whom would jump ship with Evero on the defensive staff. I presume someone with heavy ties to Dave Canales.

Even if you are somehow blaming Mahomes for that game, he isn't having a bad season overall by anyone but HIS standards. I'd be floored if Bryce was at 63% completion percentage, close to 4500 yds and 34 Total TD's. Sign me up for that kind of failure.

Versus just Bryce? Yeah, I think most scenarios that is true. I will say that neither of those guys is "winning" many must win games at the moment.

I do think that is going to be an interesting thing to track the next few drafts, the guys that stay longer in college and get more experience in different offensive system due to the portal. I tend to believe this will produce some better QB's in terms of NFL readiness.

That's why I wouldn't expect them to make the move. It's, at best, lateral. It probably gets a little more difficult if you consider salary situations. Yeah, I mean I would think that is the determination at the moment. If you want to take Tyrod vs. Bryce outside of that scenario, I think it might still be a coin flip. I personally would rather have Tyrod but it is the Jets.

I don't think the Raiders actually would. Geno has been bad but we have seen how terrible Bryce is with bad pressure issues. Bryce would actually be a downgrade in terms of ball security there. It's possible, though.

No and Davis was an outlier. Most players don't recover from two ACL injuries. For it to happen before his career even gets off the ground is even worse. I do feel bad for the kid, it's a terrible thing to have a potentially promising career go this way.

He's also 26 so he has more general game experience than a lot of rookies.

Tyrod is currently injured, though.

I hope we don't rush him back, even in the middle of a playoff push. Not worth losing him for next season too.

College football has zero ability to work together, they are too busy trying actively to rip each others throats out and destroy each others programs. They even do it inside their own conferences, especially the biggest conferences. It's why they are ultimately doomed.

I couldn't care less if they do. There are entirely too many in the first place.

Possibles(although not definites): Jets Browns Colts(injury related only) Vikings Saints or Falcons is an arguable take but I am very doubtful they would swap their challenging QB situations for ours.

I think that is another problem with Bryce, he has to gain his confidence every game, seemingly.

Eh....this isn't the first time this has happened. The Big 12 fined two teams for doing this, which is more understandable because they share that money in the conference. There is really no harm to ND doing this other than some potential loss in revenue from a TV partner like ESPN. None of us should care about that at all.

Sunday Night is a national broadcast.

In a bowl game? That would basically eliminate any one year turnaround teams. Not very fair. Notre Dame isn't hurting anyone but themselves. There should be no outrage over that.

I don't think the usage of Horn is bad, it's basically taking one of your top 2-3 YAC guys and putting him in a position to make people miss. Is it the best for his overall WR reps? No but it's a crowded WR room for not very many good or efficient targets being delivered. If we had a higher efficiency, higher volume passing offense then Renfrow would have a lot more uses. He could be that David Moore role from last year of finding open areas while the defense is keying in on the better WR's. But, we are also kidding ourselves if we think prime Renfrow is ever coming back. He is a shell of his former self and its unlikely he will ever return to that form.

It has always been a drastically inferior product to professional football because the backbone of it is intended to be an unfair, fixed system. Always has been but it has gotten worse in the Super TV contract era. Even though the product should(and has) gotten better with the NIL and free agency, they go and ruin it again with the profiteering that destroys entire conferences. I think when the inevitable happens of a smaller super conference(or super conferences) group that basically plays a different level of sport, that should be the thing that likely sets it on the NASCAR course of steep decline.