kungfoodude

Banking your hopes on a couch FA that has a cup of tea NFL career to date as an almost 31 year old QB is certainly something. Especially when you consider that he has spent literally zero time in our offense so far. I think that White might be solid competition and possibly be better than Hendon Hooker, which is certainly a very low bar to clear. That's probably about where the level is for White. He's a potential upgrade to our PS QB.

Yeah, that "Me against the world" mentality can work....when you are right and know what you are doing. But if you don't know what you are doing and can't accept that you need to learn, that is an impossible hill to climb.

I don't think he has a "hands off" mode. If you look at his business career it was built on eschewing the normal path and doing it his own way on his own terms. I don't envision that softening. It rarely does with advanced age.

He is much more decisive with the ball. He also is less suited for extending plays than Bryce. But he also has a little better pocket presence, as well. My prediction, assuming he starts, is that he will do a little better than Bryce has. I don't expect that to lead to a victory nor do I expect him to light the world on fire.

We have literally made almost every mistake in the book, some several times, since Tepper assumed control. The sad truth is, we are likely doomed while he is in charge.

Why? He has almost no NFL abilities at all.

PJ Walker is another in a long line of Panther backups that hold this ridiculously high place in Huddle lore for literally no reason. Walker was an XFL/CFL caliber player.

I am gonna keep pushing back on the notion that there is some secret layer to the Canales playbook that he can't call because of Bryce. Dalton is just more capable of making quick reads and getting the ball out quicker than Bryce has been so far. Dalton is also a little more of a gambler than Bryce.

Had he gotten another 1k season, he would have broken Jerry Rice's record for consecutive 1k seasons.

It's the "I can fix them" nonsense that human beings always have.

Well the most common record during both their tenures was 7-9. I was heavily against the massive teardown that most of the Huddle wanted after 2018. I kept warning people that successful franchises don't do that type of poo. Turns out....successful franchises don't do that type of poo.

If we keep this "every other" RB nonsense going, it is liable to get ugly for us early. Ride Dowdle and put them in a hole early.

I am not advocating for Tua just saying a non-mushed Tua isn't the worst case scenario for Bryce as a ceiling. But it's also not a top 10 contract player nor a player worth the price we paid to get him.

Also there is the reality of being mediocre like Arizona with the hope of potentially being good versus what we chose, which was to implode the entire organization, burn every aspect of its history and then promptly rebrand as the biggest joke in the NFL. So sometimes when you are faced with a neverending hellish existence that is perpetually attempting a destruction and rebuild cycle, the specter of relative mediocrity doesn't seem that bad. At least there is still some level of hope left. We as Panther fans know this all too well. How we wish for the simpler days of John Fox and Ron Rivera.

The issue is that being slow or unable to read the field is the toughest of all hills to climb in the NFL for a QB. There is an overflowing graveyard of former QB's you have to climb over to get to the very few success stories in that realm. It is not impossible for him to figure it out but it is HIGHLY improbable that he will. The odds there are so incredibly low.

PS....maybe.

I don't think it's an overpayment issue. That's just the market. It isn't new at all. The overwhelming majority of big QB contracts are for average to good QB's. That's because there are so incredibly few elite QB's. Almost every position has the same issue. The elite guys pull prices up into the stratosphere and the market adjusts.

I didn't want anything to do with Anthony Richardson but if the net result would have been a pivot this quickly away from a bad draft pick, sign me up.

That's true. I did actually mean the FO but that's a fair point.

If you only factor passing, there is a VERY mild argument Dalton is more efficient but it's ignoring the threat Cam was as a big play literally every snap. With his feet OR through the air. Dalton was never that type of player. I would say Dalton over 200 is a very safe bet.

They have been over the past few years, we just don't get them or royally fug it up(Mayfield). The common denominator is that we suck at it. A lot.

A non-CTE Tua wouldn't be atrocious. But, it isn't a guy I want a Tua sized contract attached to.

I think he will be better than healthy Bryce and considerably better than gimped Bryce. Just realize that's a low bar. Don't expect Prime Cam.

Let's say he doesn't peak for two more years. Let's operate under the assumption that is accurate. Explain to me what you view that "peak" as in two years?

Agreed. He has yet to convince me that he really wants to be a good NFL player. Sunday was a lot better. Let's hope there is more of that.