kungfoodude

Pavia is basically significantly less talented and much smaller Sam Darnold. He has even less QB experience than Darnold had. He is likely a long term developmental prospect and not really someone that could be relied on to be a quality #2 QB. He would be great as a #3 or PS QB to develop.

I suspect it will not go well. They certainly have some talent but still lack a QB and some other pieces. At best, they might rise to fringe playoff competitor. Now, this is also with the prospect of Washington about to be going through a HC change and Philly in turmoil. Could end up backing into a weak division.

Yeah, notice how his feet are set and he is able to drive the ball downfield. That rarely happens here. Also, you are almost never going to see NFL WR's that open.

Shaheed got a 2 year, $6.2 mil deal as an ERFA. ERFA price for one year would be $1.145 mil for Coker. I do think we sign him to a short term deal but it may not be at the prices you guys are talking about. That's not very common.

Yeah, Ikey and BC have major injuries is bad because it creates two big holes that we weren't anticipating having to fill. But, overall we did know even before the season started that there was a ton of work needed on the roster. We still have at least three good to very good offseasons of work for this to be a good roster, IMO.

Depends on price. Also, upgrading via the draft is very cheap. Cheaper than extending him on a starting deal. This is something that is long overdue.

If we can keep him at a reasonable deal as an IOL backup, that would be outstanding. We do have to upgrade there though. He is a below average NFL starting center.

Honestly, that very well may have been in the equation. I wouldn't be shocked to see it. It will be even more funny if they overdraft Simpson. Another Alabama QB bust created immediately.

There is no potential path for Chambliss to be a 1st round pick. He is a mid-round guy, at best.

Or how about Michael Bates? Man, I miss that MFer. 5x Pro Bowler and 2x AP with us as KR. Or even prime Steve Smith at PR. People forget he was a Pro Bowler and first team AP as a rookie at PR.

Yep. Raiders might get a LOT of tempting calls now. Edit: Side note, this is the kind of move directly tied to kid's getting paid. It isn't a big financial risk to remain in school and develop.

No he definitely hasn't. At all. The trade downs have been as big a disaster as the trade ups. It's not the decisions to do so as much as they immediately squander all the trade resources on bad players. Typically while passing on very good players.

Yep. Our coaching staff is way too dumb to have started XL, Coker and AT.

100%. It's about planning for the future, having flexibility and contingent players. Worst case scenario(provided the pick is sound) is that you have too many good OT's.

Yes but you are probably looking at Moton off the cap in 2027 and SHOULD be looking at Hunt off the cap, as well. The big monkey wrench will be QB and possibly LT, because even if we jettison Ikey, something has to be done at the position.

I think Moton is likely gone in 2027, pending whatever happens at LT. We need to be planning for the future and draft a good LT/swing OT/RT. Give yourself flexibility or it will be another panic move and spending wildly to plug a critical hole.

He is a below average starter but we have had far worse and not that long ago at the position. As I said, I am fine keeping him but he should be a reserve and we should be drafting his replacement.

We haven't tried to get this type of player in forever. It's infuriating.

Everyone sort of faltered in that passing offense after the trade deadline because Darnold went to poo from Week 11 onward. I do think they intend to keep him.

I think that will be a far less serious injury than he ultimately gets in his NFL career.

LB is not a huge need for the Lions, so that is odd. 100% against any trade ups. Hill I sometimes see in the 2nd, maybe he slides there too. Agree on the OL planning. Plan for the future, not the present.

Styles would be fantastic but he is a pretty decent candidate to go ahead of us. I think there is ample talent around 19 and I would be VERY against trading down. That is not something I trust this FO to be able to do successfully. BPA and move on.

I don't think he probably has any desire to go to another losing team. I know he does have roots in this area but he has also spent most of the last 15 years in California. Also, how would he be drastically different than Coker?

I mean, honestly, I would just rather have a good NFL owner. She still has to make big decisions on who those football people are. If you fug that up right out of the gate, it's all lost.

Well, you can also punt and see what he looks like as a true starter heading into next offseason because he is an ERFA. Then you can make the decision whether that longer term, higher end deal is warranted. Consider the fact that if he becomes a starter next season and then starts dramatically outperforming his 4 year, $20-24 mil deal, he is likely going to be disgruntled and you will have to renegotiate anyway. I don't think the risk is super high having him come in for 2026 at the league minimum. Supposedly he is a high caliber locker room guy and he does get more hate than is warranted. I am fine keeping him but I think the issue is moreso that we aren't attempting to UPGRADE that position. Draft/sign a better option and bring him back as a valuable reserve. As maligned as a ton of the players on this roster are, I think a chunk of them are just miscast. Rozebum and Wallace would be fine as reserve LB's and special teams guys. Same with Scott, same with Nijman, same with Mays, etc, etc, etc. If we attempt to improve a lot of these positions, we can bump these lower quality starters down where they belong, as reserves.