kungfoodude

I am not here to say if he is or isn't an option. I would also say that we shouldn't be hyper focused on a long term QB. That contributed to how badly we fuged up the Bryce Young pick. We aren't in a position with this bad of a roster to be QB desperate. Just focus on getting BETTER and potentially better options. Bryce is clearly a bust so continuing this is just pointless. Build the roster, IMPROVE at QB and keep moving forward.

It's possible but I think if you look at the potential options available it's unlikely. He is going to be a FA that some teams love and some teams are highly skeptical of. Not trying to make a direct comparison(which is very unfair to Willis) but you didn't see a big market unfold for Kyle Allen after his "success" streak in Carolina. It's possible you get a team or two willing to pay a Justin Fields level contract($20 mil AAV), but I think a Mac Jones level deal is more likely. Shorter and for less money overall.

QB is our biggest need but even bringing in Pat Mahomes is not going to turn this team into a consistent contender. We are still at least a couple of very good offseasons away from even thinking about consistency. Make no mistake, this is still a bad roster. We have to keep plugging away at improving it and we need more 2025 offseasons than 2024 offseasons.

I am not in favor of "going all out." That is a bad plan. I have said repeatedly if we are going to keep Bryce for next season(I am not in favor of this either), that we should jettison Dalton and add both a FA/veteran QB capable of being better than Bryce(smaller bar than Bryce is) AND a DRAFTED rookie QB from Day 2/3. Let's get some darts on the board at QB to upgrade while the rest of the roster builds. If we can build a good roster, eventually we can either attract a good veteran QB FA or make another Bryce-like move up because one of our few remaining weaknesses is just QB.

Several of those guys you listed are upgrades over Bryce and several more are potential upgrades. There will be other starting(or former) QB's coming available too(Geno Smith, Kyler Murray, Kirk Cousins, etc). Or there are backups that can clearly be upgrades(Mac Jones, Jacoby Brissett, Davis Mills, etc). Now, how realistic any of these options are is questionable. For any of the acquisition options, price would be a big factor. For any of the older veterans their motivation for even wanting to come to a team like this is pretty questionable. That extends to several other FA candidates, as well. Are we operating in a therotical world where Bryce is still here and presumed to be the starter? That is going to eliminate some options. Are we operating in a theoretical world where it is a "competition" and Bryce is still here? Or is Bryce gone completely? Those are all factors that make various of these scenarios both more and less "realistic." But, if the question is can we upgrade over Bryce? There is no question we can do so through free agency or potentially the draft.

I would love to see how you think they are similar statistically. If you want to talk Mac Jones specifically, it's also likely to be expensive in terms of draft capital. Jones is on a $6 mil deal and performed very well in SF this year. SF has all the leverage they need to ask for more than even market value, because he had very high value as a very cheap, very capable backup. Mac Jones is UNQUESTIONABLY better than Bryce Young. There isn't even a decent argument to be made otherwise. I say that and I don't want Mac Jones as our future QB. He's a middling to lower end starter, at best. But he is very much an improvement over Bryce. So do you want me to lay out more potential and theoretical options or was Mac Jones enough?

Yeah, it would be insanely easy to replace his production. There are several backup QB's who could easily eclipse that. Hell, one did this past year in fewer games.

I am phrasing the question the way that I did because there are likely to be several options available that aren't projected to be free agents. I will give a single example(there are several) like Mac Jones. As for the draft, that's also going to be a little bit of a muddy discussion if you only limit it to what is "currently" available. Remember, we still haven't gone through the full cycle of who is declaring and who isn't. I am asking for clarifications so I don't get a bunch of complaining for making suggestions about guys that may or may not actually end up being available.

Yeah but it didn't have to get in via tiebreakers. That doesn't happen that often. That's why I am generally agreeing with @csx. We literally backed into the playoffs on a 2 game losing streak, one of those games being a "win and get in" scenario that ONLY applied to us. I am not saying there is anything wrong with that, but it is ultimately....a little pathetic. Now, it's not as pathetic as missing out on getting into the playoffs to an 8-9 team that backed in. So take that, Taint, Cuc and Falcunt queefs.

So I get to pick, in god-like fashion whomever I want with no limits???? I am attempting to give realistic or potential options but if you just want me to start listing better QB's than Bryce, I can do that too.

Oh I am aware. He is a Forever Brycer. He was expecting I wouldn't even reply or give a wishy washy answer. The truth is, there will be ample options at least as good as Bryce with far, far higher ceilings and a smaller group of CLEARLY better than Bryce options available, as well. And that's not even touching the draft. It's a far shorter list to find QB's in the NFL that are demonstrably WORSE than Bryce. Although I do have that list available, as well.

Once you get demoted like this, there isn't much path upwards. They are better off trying to maximize any potential trade value for a bust WR with a high ceiling like they did with Mingo. If they wait until next season, that value will drop off a cliff.

That's not a realistic scenario of extrapolating outward nor would they be playing such an easy schedule. He played two teams with winning records during those eight games. The other three teams they played with above .500 records Penis Jr. played. I think you will see that although there will be ample QB opportunities available in free agency, he will not be getting signed as a starter. The Corbett complaint is massively overplayed. It's a significantly smaller issue than the playcalling, QB play and, as you said, our predictability.

It's inarguable. The people getting upset about this are being babies. If anyone here said they wanted to be an 8-9 playoff team as their ultimate goal prior to the Tampa game, they are nuts. That said, I did say that it would be my PREFERRED way to get in but only because it would inflict the maximum amount of pain on the Tampa fans.

I think they will likely shop him around.

I mean....you could have just won the game to actually get you in.

Do you want actual or potential options? The CURRENT free agent list is available but that will likely change quite a bit based on what we are seeing happen already.

I think Cousins is very clearly washed up. He's a lesser Andy Dalton. You can see how much the Falcons thought of him as they arranged a deal so he can be cut by March. I don't think there is any real reason to attach OL issues to the problem. Not overtly, anyway. We had at one point in the season(and may still) had the most OL combinations start in the NFL. We featured multiple trash heap players and PS call ups. I think the bulk of the blame was predictable playcalling and extremely poor QB play by us.

There are better short term options available than Bryce, however. He is also a short term player.

Hunt was out when Dowdle had about 9 total carries on the season. Hell he was about 2 YPC at the time Hunt went down. Also, I am less inclined to think Cousins was the sole reason for Atlanta to come roaring back. He was basically Bryce Young. In his eight starts he went 5-3, had 2 total games over 200 yds passing and only scored 11 TD's.

Not saying that isn't true but it does project to potentially be even tougher than the #9 SOS we had this season.

Brother I am not gonna sit here and let you fuging besmirch the name of that 2014 team. They were 7-8-1. Sooo...did you not see next seasons schedule yet?

No way, dude. They are basically the same player through three seasons. I will show you:

It isn't about his time or not his time, the situation created and certainly the press conference after his firing in which Tepper repeatedly intentionally mispronounced his name(a notorious Tepper practice) broadcast to the entire NFL coaching community who he is. Furthermore, saddling him with some chaotic "dream team" staff isn't what any credible head coach would want. He did it again with Canales and Evero. That's the point, any notion of "oh you have to be careful about how it looks" is long gone. This is overwhelmingly the worst job in the NFL. That isn't likely to change because they fire Canales now or when they fire him next season/offseason. You aren't gonna get extra credit for that.

He won't be correcting his footwork because he doesn't agree it is an issue. He disagrees with every outside source that has told him he should correct it.