kungfoodude

Pretty sure he means the 5th year option. If he balls out the rest of the way and we win a few more, I am fine extending him to that 5th year option. That's with the caveat that we have multiple options available at the position going into TC. That is a begrudgingly acceptable result.

The amount of Brissett and the Joneses are getting should make us take a hard look at Dalton this offseason. Ask yourselves if you wouldn't pay literally double what Brissett and Mac Jones are getting paid just to have a reliable backup option.

Yeah, that's what I mean. Weinke would probably have to be removed. Him stinking it up as a 4th rounder isn't really particularly abnormal.

I mean, I am not in the heads of every one of his teammates but I would wager the ability to play through an injury does inspire confidence but probably not as much as the ability to put up the performance he did yesterday. If he would do that more, injured or healthy, I am pretty sure his teammates would definitely have a ton of faith in him. Which, for all we know they always have. We aren't intimately familiar with the general thoughts of his teammates nor probably will we ever be. This is just one of those speculative things that I don't tend to argue to vehemently about or even put much stock in simply because the unknowns are massive and the knowns are very small. There is anecdotal evidence in the way of public comments or teammate body language(which is very interpretive anyway) but aside from that the public is almost always very shielded from the true thoughts on specific players. Winning and playing well seems to cure all the ails. Hopefully that just continues and this isn't really a debate at all.

On his career(not including yesterday), Bryce is about 55-60% of his total attempts being less than 10 yards from the LOS. I can get the exact percentage, if you want.

I believe for his career his lowest efficiency area targeted is 10-20 yards. Not by a ton but I do believe it is his worst area of the field. Not great for a game managery style QB. You are correct, this is the area he must improve dramatically.

On what planet do you think this one game will net Bryce a lengthy contract extension? We still haven't even decided on his 5th year option yet. I would hope we have an at least basic level of competency in our Front Office(debatable, I know) that we wouldn't have a Huddle-esque knee jerk reaction that translated into immediate contract extension. If you see us pick up his 5th year option this week and/or sign him to a contract extension in the next week or two, then you may be correct that we are that stupid. The far more likely scenario is that we let the rest of the season play out and then make the next decision necessary on his future here.

That depends on the factors involved. Quite a few of the shorter passes that we do throw the "check down" is one of the first 1-2 reads. One could argue that could be because of Bryce but that's really almost impossible for us to know without Dave Canales essentially telling us that directly.

I don't think there was anything particularly that he did that made him better as a leader than just play very well. He has played very well before. In terms of leading by "example" or "play" than I suppose this was one of his best performances. In terms of playing through injuries or getting banged up....he has also done that before too. It's the play and/or results that were outside the norm, not really any of the other aspects. He's been a leader, he's been a cheerleader(for his teammates), he's come back from in game injuries, etc. He didn't do anything particularly new other than execute well. That's basically all he has ever really been lacking.

I don't really think he nor the DC offense is going to be a consistent 20+ yard targeting offense. We just don't run that kind of offense. In fact, Bryce has never really been in an offense that strayed too far from basic West Coast principles in his NFL career. So, the lack of deep targets can't really be placed completely on his shoulders. It's easy to individually blame him for missing reads deep, which he has over and over. But, I would wager that if you really broke down those "missed reads" in detail that the deep target misses wouldn't stand out statistically. Just a hunch, I have no details on that at all.

Massively so. He had a 136.46 QB Rating in the 10-20 area on Sunday. That has been his least efficient area of passing on the season with a 59.8 QB Rating prior to yesterday. It's been even less efficient than his 20+ yard attempts.

He isn't perfect but I had him as my #1 WR in that class for a reason.

For the record, Bryce attempted only three 20+ passes Sunday. That is moderately better than his 2.22/Game 2025 average and his 2.73/Game career average(not including Sunday). I wouldn't say the "deep ball" was the reason he succeeded yesterday. It accounted for only 65 yds and 1 TD of his 448 yds and 3 TD's. He was just better in almost every aspect. It was the 2nd highest QB rating of his NFL career.

Recap - Baltimore's fake tush push was pure genius. - I hate Denver intensely. The more they win, the more I hate them. - Dillon Gabriel is arguably the NFL's worst QB. - Shadeur Sanders is worse than Dillon Gabriel. - Aaron Glenn is a complete idiot. - Sam Darnold celebrated his return to the NFL. - The people trying to jettison Brock Purdy got pretty quiet. He is actually better than Mac Jones, albeit not by enough to justify that contract difference. - fug Aaron Rodgers. - JJ McCarthy is quickly descending to Dillon Gabriel/Justin Fields depths of QB play. His alter ego "Nine" might be the remaining games he has as Vikings starter at this rate. - Trevor Lawrence still sucks. - Stock way up for Jacoby Brissett on the Panthers Veteran QB We Should Pursue in the 2026 Free Agency. If he can be obtained at a reasonable price, he would be a massive upgrade over Andy Dalton. Mariota and Winston are lesser options but potentially cheaper.

You have to give a lot of credit to the opponent too. They really gave him all the opportunities in the world for a very highly ranked(or formerly) passing defense. On paper, their gameplan should have worked as it largely mirrored what New Orleans did and they have a substantially stronger pass defense than the Saints.

Yeah, hopefully the confidence keeps rising like we saw at the end of last year. Again, as others have said, one thing that can't continue is to piss away half a season before it starts clicking. I really don't care how good he can be in second halves of the season if he just can never get off the ground in the first halves of every season. When you see games like yesterday, it makes you even more frustrated that we can't get this more often. Frankly, it's so rare that it's absurd.

I think anything aside from like 0-3 wins was probably going to allow Dave to go into 2026 as the head coach. Obviously, a lot would depend on what this season looked like but I would imagine at this point he is very safe headed into 2026. Even if(more likely when) the wheels fall off the rest of the way out, I suspect Tepper will want to see another offseason cycle with Dave at the helm. There could obviously be things that happen that change that in the remaining games but I don't think those are likely outcomes anymore.

I would question his toughness pretty considerably after removing himself from a game because he was tired. That's about as baby soft as you can get as an NFL QB. But I do understand your point is that toughness isn't durability. That's more so what I was talking about, was durability.

Echoing the things many others have said, what I wanted to see what an "answer" to the QB question coming into this season and with the 5th year option looming this offseason. That was an insane game by Bryce, literally what we had all hoped to get from him when we traded up to get him. Kudos to him for that performance, it literally was franchise history. But....this has to keep happening. Not franchise history but good games. You can't have 1-3 of these each season. That's not a franchise QB, that's Ryan Fitzpatrick. We have the toughest stretch of our entire season coming up, it's going to basically be put up or shut up time for Bryce. He's probably playing for his Panthers future.

I honestly think this guy lost a bet or something. Either that or is a sock account. His posts are somewhat perplexing.

That's something I have said repeatedly about Young is that he is unquestionably tough. One of the worries coming into the league was that he was so small that he might not be able to take the beating the NFL offers. Truth be told, he has been more durable than his extremely large and physically imposing contemporaries in that 2023 NFL Draft. To date, he has only missed 2 career games due to injury compared to 4 games for CJ Stroud and 17 games for Anthony Richardson.

This is like watching two teams attempting to point shave without the knowledge the other team is too.

He will go off. 152 yds passing.

Since @TheSpecialJuan is delinquent. Time to get these brooms out, boys.

Remember when people wanted us to trade for Deebo?