kungfoodude

All that same bad ball placement seems ro be working a lot better to TMac. The truth is, XL has zero desire to be in the NFL.

I think XL will be out of the NFL inside 3 years.

Yeah, I do think either they change the contract or he gets cut/moved. Murray seems like a good candidate to be moving on. The speculation on Purdy is absurd. Jones is a less athletic Purdy, there is no benefit to making that change. At all. The speculation on Lawrence is absurd too. Yes he is a bust but the cap ramifications are bad enough that I think he will be around for at least another year. They can always pivot by bringing in veteran or rookie QB competition like Indy did with Jones.

I am over him. I certainly hope your faith is rewarded but I have seen enough of these bust Panther WR's that he looks exactly like what I am used to.

People are really not looking at these contracts when they are thinking about these potential moves. Murray is bad enough but Jacksonville would be self nuking to trade Lawrence. Same with the 49ers and Purdy. Some of these guys just cannot be moved at the moment. As upset as those teams may or may not be, they aren't upset enough to have to tear their rosters apart in an attempt to get under the salary cap by cutting/trading a QB on a mega deal.

Yes, XL's 28 ypg has been so productive. So glad we didn't take Ladd McConkey with this level of production.

I am well aware, especially considering how many more targets XL has gotten in that timespan. Hence why I have apologized to TMJ and Mingo so often.

100%. Don't get stupid. QB's this draft will be plentiful.

I am over XL. If he turns it around somewhere else in the NFL a few years from now, good for him. But I have seen enough to believe he is never going to be more than a barely roster eligible player. Of course. How could you not be? Bryce is wildly inaccurate far too often.

I don't need to think it, XL made it a reality. This is the same BS that people said about TMJ amd Mingo. "Oh if they just had a better QB!" Well, our rookie WR doesn't seem to be struggling like that, now does he? Think maybe that is because one is an NFL WR and the other is a PS caliber player?

This was always fantasy, IMO. I don't think the chances of him to us were as serious as some have said.

He was the upgraded version of Donovan McNabb, IMO. Guys that extended plays until people got open. Wilson also had arguably the greatest deep ball of the past 25 years or so. The accolades(10x Pro Bowl, 1x SB Champ) and statistics(Top 15 in Passing Yards and TD's in NFL history) of his career make him a relatively safe HOF candidate. There is certainly the argument to be made that he was the product of a very favorable situation but there are several HOF QB's that could be said for. You rarely ever get to see guys in an apples to apples situation to know who was truly better than who.

Mac Jones isn't likely to happen unless we over invest on both draft capital to obtain him and very likely on a contract extension, as well. Not sure that's what I would like to do for a middle of the road to bottom third NFL starting QB. If he was just a straight up FA, kick the tires on maybe a Justin Fields type contract but this is a bit different when it may involve trading very sorelu needed draft capital. Not against the idea, just don't think the price and situation is going to be favorable.

Brother, stop with the AI horseshit. It's making you look foolish.

Yeah, if you want to kick the tires on Sanders, wait until he gets cut. At best that is a conditional 7th.

IDK what the point of even bringing him up is anymore. He is very clearly a bust. Time to move on.

I wasn't a big fan coming in. Some of the same reasons he struggles with now. He just doesn't see the field well at all. Even when he does, he cannot consistently make the throws. Million dollar talent, ten cent processing ability. It happens. The teams that keep doing this to themselves are just nuts.

Bryce had zero ability to elevate the guys around him.

There is nothing more to see nor had there been anything to see for a couple of years. He is fuging atrocious. His best bet is to convert to a TE/WR/something. QB is just never gonna happen for him.

Kyler is a realistic option for the Cardinals to trade without nuking their salary cap. Attempting to trading Lawrence is an instant H-Bomb to Jacksonville's cap and will cause an unbelievable mess for them. Now, that said, what Kyler being traded to us would immediately accomplish is fuging up our cap without a really big overhaul of his contract. So, in the case that we decided to make this move, it's not likely a prove it deal, it's a long term marriage. That ain't smart.

This isn't really a QB tank worthy draft, TBH. Loaded with #2 QB's.

There are literally two starting QB's in the NFL as we speak that are averaging less than Bryce. Justin Fields at 153.2 and Dillon Gabriel at 124.1. Both also have a lower QBR and a worse winning percentage. Bryce is atrocious but it can indeed get worse.

I without question, without equivocation, vehemently disagree. I don't need to see an infinitely more talented player perform substantially worse than Bryce. That's a goddamn nightmare.

This is exactly what I mean. There is no excuse for him to be this insanely bad. That isn't a better scenario.

Yeah and that's great for them but you also need to realize that we are literally a worse version of that now.