kungfoodude

I don't think there will be much trouble with the contract considering 2026 is the end of his guaranteed money and his 2026 salary(currently) would make him somewhere near the Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield area of AAV. So, bottom of the top 20 and just inside the backup, low caliber QB range of QB pay. Like I said, don't be surprised if he gets moved. What was the reason he went to the bench? Do you even remember? Lol....100% emotional, dude. Listen we disagree from time to time and I always enjoy a debate but you aren't even attempting a compelling argument at all. Bryce is demonstrably a worse NFL QB than Kyler Murray. And that shouldn't be some brag point for Kyler. That's being compared to a guy that is probably not a top 40 roster NFL QB.

You just keep going back to an emotional argument and one not based in anything football related. So, which one is going to be the starter and which one isn't? Also, how confident in that prediction are you?

But winning games is a bad metric? Because one has a much better career winning percentage. So if you aren't as good statistically and you lose considerably more.....you are the better QB??? Again, please help me find any logic in this argument.

I am not sure why any source would be particularly useful on free agency moves during the season but I will just say, I think you will see.

College football is an extremely poor comparison. Also, by "right now" do you mean this season? Because one of those two QB's has no statistical argument for being better than Baker Mayfield. I don't think this is about stats, records or anything on the football field. You just like Bryce Young and you dislike Kyler Murray. But that isn't an argument based in any football reality, it's just your personal feelings.

As a FREE AGENT, absolutely so. He would be an insanely big upgrade from Bryce. We would finally have a QB capable of performing the upper 90% of NFL starters. Price depending, obviously. That being said, I would say the odds of Murray being a free agent are a lot smaller than you think. His odds of being moved are far higher than the odds of him being cut. They have until March 22nd to move him or his 2027 base salary is guaranteed.

I think that is the difference between elite guys and JAG's(or worse). The elite guys are better able to make those adjustments quickly. Certainly, one can argue that development can be hindered by the team/franchise but the cream does fairly consistently seem to keep rising.

I mean...I would love to hear any sort of logic of how Murray could possibly be construed as a worse QB than Bryce. How are you basing it? If not statistically, winning percentage? Well, I have bad news for your argument. So are we going, what, eye test? Well, I have even worse news than the last news. So after that what remains?

That's fine but if you don't figure it out until 5-6 years into the NFL what does it matter if you came in at 22? That is basically my point, it depends on overall development time whether you are 20 or 29.

Murray is not only better than Bryce but fairly significantly so. Both of those QB's have had significantly better careers to date and are still better QB's than Bryce.

That was the first time in NFL history the same player has had more than one TO on a single possession.

I think that depends on how quickly they adjust. That wouldn't be different if he had been drafted at 22.

I mean both Murray and Brissett are better than Bryce.

The more banged up they are, the better for us. We just have to capitalize on their weaknesses.

I have no idea what we would decide to do or whom would jump ship with Evero on the defensive staff. I presume someone with heavy ties to Dave Canales.

Even if you are somehow blaming Mahomes for that game, he isn't having a bad season overall by anyone but HIS standards. I'd be floored if Bryce was at 63% completion percentage, close to 4500 yds and 34 Total TD's. Sign me up for that kind of failure.

Versus just Bryce? Yeah, I think most scenarios that is true. I will say that neither of those guys is "winning" many must win games at the moment.

I do think that is going to be an interesting thing to track the next few drafts, the guys that stay longer in college and get more experience in different offensive system due to the portal. I tend to believe this will produce some better QB's in terms of NFL readiness.

That's why I wouldn't expect them to make the move. It's, at best, lateral. It probably gets a little more difficult if you consider salary situations. Yeah, I mean I would think that is the determination at the moment. If you want to take Tyrod vs. Bryce outside of that scenario, I think it might still be a coin flip. I personally would rather have Tyrod but it is the Jets.

I don't think the Raiders actually would. Geno has been bad but we have seen how terrible Bryce is with bad pressure issues. Bryce would actually be a downgrade in terms of ball security there. It's possible, though.

No and Davis was an outlier. Most players don't recover from two ACL injuries. For it to happen before his career even gets off the ground is even worse. I do feel bad for the kid, it's a terrible thing to have a potentially promising career go this way.

He's also 26 so he has more general game experience than a lot of rookies.

Tyrod is currently injured, though.

I hope we don't rush him back, even in the middle of a playoff push. Not worth losing him for next season too.

College football has zero ability to work together, they are too busy trying actively to rip each others throats out and destroy each others programs. They even do it inside their own conferences, especially the biggest conferences. It's why they are ultimately doomed.