kungfoodude

Fields has played in the NFL for 4.5 years now. He only has one of his 4.5 seasons that would eclipse Bryce Young's lowest season passing yards per game average. His career average in 58 games is 153.8. The Fields guys have always wanted to see an even more unwatchable version of Bryce Young. One with literally every physical advantage that could possibly exist for a QB.

Did we release Matt Stafford? Ya'll do watch the NFL, right?

If you go "new" Browns(1999-Present) verus Tepper era Panthers, we are currently significantly worse than Cleveland by most measures at this stage in their history. Winning percentage, QB's started, HC's, GM's, etc.

Given the trade recently, I have to assume they are tanking. Tyrod is better than Fields. I mean, Mike White is probably better than Fields.

He isn't the odds on favorite for MVP.

I am fine bringing in Trey Lance. I am not fine bringing in Trey Lance with the expectation that he starts. Bring him in as a backup or bring him in to compete. Those scenarios are fine.

Murray, Russell Wilson, Flutie, etc. All smaller than Brees. Being small isn't the issue. Not having elite physical skills and also not having elite....well....anything, is the problem.

What logic exists that could explain trading a guy that is performing very well in your offense for a guy that has been atrocious in the NFL for....twice the price? Are you sending them draft picks too?? This is maybe the most illogical trade idea I have seen here this season, and that's saying a lot.

He is a bottom quarter LB, at best. It just is what it is. He can still be a solid depth guy eventually, but we need to replace him with a viable starting LB soon.

Unlikely. He is a buddy coach. McDaniel is too but he also happens to be a top tier offensive mind. Canales is significantly closer to the bottom than the top. Not a great combo.

It's just visually more pleasing. The results are similar. I am not vehemently anti-Jameis. I have generally one of his bigger career defenders. It's just that his playing style makes it hard to be successful as a team. He hurts them too often.

Losing Wallace doesn't really make much of an impact. He is a very below average LB.

There is zero logical reason they would want Bryce Young and especially for Jones. Jones may net them as much as a 3rd rounder with that contract. They would be foolish to make such an insane trade.

Tyrod would be an upgrade. Not a major one but an upgrade.

I think it's going to be very funny how poorly that goes. I suspect you will see a lot of the Winston stans get pretty quiet after that game.

TBH, Bryce's physical limitations pale in comparison to his mental limitations and persistent mechanical issues. Those were the real surprise. The physical limitations aren't a shock.

Since this does kick off tonight..... I know everyone is amped up to see the Jets vs. Pats.

This is a guy that would be a good option to bring in as a 3rd stringer to potentially compete in camp. Throwing eggs in that basket to sign as a starter for 2026 should basically get a lot of people fired for the suggestion.

Extra deep balls, with a heaping side of INT's.

He has lost them because people already felt the need to blabber about this to the press. Lack of culture.

He has lost them.

Remember this also the same organization that had the "one week" high ankle sprain on Bryce this season.

Agreed. Same with those other busts. Those are hedged bets, not primary plan #1. Darnold wasn't the plan for Minny. Geno wasn't the plan for Seattle. Jones wasn't the plan for Indy. Those guys just eventually became options due to attrition, trades or winning the competition. That's the way I want to deal with bust QB's. As a potential option after a camp battle or injury. Not as Plan A. That's just insane.

I don't know about a ton when you start with #2's and #3's but way too many for an NFL QB with as many starts as Bryce has.

Oh it's definitely not too early to call him a bust. He has been an unbelievably massive bust. I don't want to intentionally tank. The Lance/Howell/Winston/Z. Wilson tier is tanking. Now, getting them as a hedged bet I can get behind.