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That makes sense. So odd to be attached to such a washed player.

Bro, I would fire Canales tomorrow and hire Harbaugh the same day. That is a no brainer. I'll take Stefanski over DC too.

I mean there were several guys on the team that played significant snaps that were lower or almost as low in catch percentage. I think you just don't like the guy. It's weird to hate a deep, DEEP reserve player this much is all I will say.

I would be surprised if it wasn't at least bottom 20%.

He can do the latter but that is too rare of an occasion. Now, he isn't going to be throwing Cam Newton/Brett Favre finger nuking lasers but he has thrown a bunch of passes with at least average NFL velocity. Like I said, it's such a small minority of the cases that it seems like a fluke.

Dillon Gabriel would like a word. There are weaker arms but being in that discussion at all is automatically a massive red flag.

It's wild. We have David Moore and Chandler Zavala threads.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/47517128/las-vegas-raiders-2025-collapse-mark-davis-tom-brady-pete-carroll-geno-smith-dysfunction Yowzer. Boy this mess sounds familiar to the Frank Reich era here. Oof.

It's such an odd guy to pick to hate as a good special teams player and 5th or 6th string WR. Especially with some of the scrubs we have all over the roster starting and being terrible.

Yeah, and he continued to be very efficient in New England too. I think had he been with an Andy Reid or Kyle Shanahan type, his career arc would have been so dramatically different.

I would imagine out. I am not sure why they haven't just closed that door completely. It's illogical given the injury suffered to even consider bringing him back.

Yeah, I discarded that theory after seeing that video. It seems he just is unwilling to change what he has always been doing and in his mind works, despite the volumes of evidence that indicates otherwise. Not that I had any real hope he would turn it around but I genuinely think his NFL window could now be over when he is no longer a Panther. I thought perhaps a couple of years kicking around as a backup but I don't think he is capable of doing that.

Yeah, we have already established that Canales really is quite bad at personnel management. He is genuinely not very good at it.

Watch it.

Okay, what were the metrics?

Let me correct the record after finding this interview. It's actually way, way, WAY worse than that Bryce doesn't work on the footwork problems. It's that he fundamentally just disagrees with anyone trying to correct his process. Wow. Let the record stand that I was wrong and I wish I was right.

Okay, so let me correct my theory about Bryce's lack of dedication to fixing his footwork. I was doing a Bryce Young YouTube dive and came across an actually really great interview with Jon Gruden from the last Super Bowl. Well, it's so, so, SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much worse than he doesn't do the work, he just fundamentally disagrees and while he does explain it to Gruden, it's pretty dismissive of any critique of his "footwork." IMO, this basically means his footwork is genuinely permanently broken because he refuses to change it.

I think he was just such an insane, unique athlete and he excelled at so many aspects of the game that he never really had to focus on the finer details until it was too late. Not that he didn't work to get better or any of that, it's that so much just came so easy to him.

That is a hilariously vivid description.

Weirdly, I think it will be an outlier game. Either really good or really bad.

It was fun while it lasted but it put so much undue stress on his shoulder and it eventually failed. Sad ending to a potential HOF career.

I have the same suspicion. I am just waiting to see if that is confirmed in the offseason.

But the issue is that Young doesn't anticipate well often enough. He frequently misses those throws or is late on them because he is so fuging off schedule. The dedication comes from still having the same issues with awful footwork after three full offseasons and three full seasons. He literally sucks at one of the most basic elements of being a QB. And footwork and mechanics issues plague a LOT of young QB's. But it's rare that they have made so little improvements this deep into their careers, especially when they are the overwhelming bulk of the flaws in the overall player. IMO, that smacks of lack of dedication. As I stated earlier in this thread, he literally said he "stepped away from football" in his first offseason after his rookie year. Does that sound very dedicated? That's not normal high level competitor energy, I can tell you that.

Cam was an arm thrower with bad footwork habits too(not as bad as Bryce) but he also had a fuging howitzer attached to his body with that arm of his. Bryce has significantly below average arm strength when is base is so out of whack like it is so often. That's why we see all these off target or limp noodle passes. Bryce is literally the worst version of an arm throwing QB. I do think they did conspire to keep him from as many eyes as possible but admittedly that isn't a rare occurrence in the modern era. A lot of the top picks are choosing to skip these drills. It would be nice to see the NFL maybe make some of this stuff mandatory. It won't happen, obviously.