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That's what I mean, so basically more on Evero himself. Let me see. There was a good breakdown of this on a podcast from a Denver podcaster in a collab effort when Evero was hired on. I don't remember the podcast, though. Nor if it is even around anymore. Might have been @ellis's podcast, maybe??

You mean just Evero in general?

In theory, the Broncos should have significant advantages over most teams considering most of their training happens at altitude.

Yeah, he is such a hot and cold QB. Even the highs are typically fairly low(speaking specifically 2024 end of season run). It's easy to point to his 400+ yard outing and being the franchise record holder for single game passing but when you look at the 26 of 40 career starts of less than 200 yards passing, it's hard to have a very rosy view of the body of work. If we were staring down a significantly better 2025 season in terms of actual performances, it would be a different story. That would show some progression is happening, albeit maybe at a glacial pace. But, that isn't what has happened. He's been modestly better than his first two seasons in most categories. Does this show improvement? Arguably so but the pace is going to lead us into a very, very difficult position even if it continues at a linear scale. You will end up in the 2026 or 2027 offseason having to make a long term decision on a MAYBE bottom 10-12 QB. And that is assuming continual progression and no regression or plateau. I just don't think there is enough to invest in this situation long term. The bones of Bryce the QB aren't solid enough to build a franchise caliber QB, IMO.

It is indeed May 1st. So they will get some free agency and also the draft if "better" options are found. I do think they will likely make that decision far earlier, however. Ultimately, if you don't pick up the 5th year option, it makes much more sense to try to move Bryce. It's better for him and us, IMO. Let him get a fresh start and another team get the option to decide on that 5th year before the deadline.

Yeah, I suppose if he was at 250+, 3+ TD's and 4-0 it wouldn't make much sense to NOT pick up the 4th. I am in the camp of not really being concerned about the "WELL IF HE LEAVES HE WILL BE GREAT ELSEWHERE" scenarios. I just don't see that being the case. Hey, I am happy to be right(I was an OG Byrce stan), then to be wrong(I am completely off the Bryce bandwagon) and then find out I was right in the first place. It would be much better for him to just suddenly figure it out and be an NFL QB. I just don't think that is going to be the case. At best, he seems like he may slowly be developing into a middling #2 QB. That's not a good return on a #1 overall draft pick.

IMO, I wouldn't ink that 5th year option unless he DOES ball out these last few games. I won't be furious if it does happen but I do think it will be a mistake when it's looked at in hindsight. I just think you have to crack the top 25 starting QB's in the NFL to even be considered for that 5th year option. Does it set up the franchise for a tough financial decision a year earlier if he balls out in 2026? Yes. But would that situation differ if it was a tough 2026 on the 4th year and a baller 2027 on the 5th? Ultimately, the body of work has conclusively and without almost any question shown he is not a franchise QB. It's generally unwise to consider massively expensive and long term commitments if that isn't the case. Otherwise you end up in the Trevor Lawrence scenario. It's going to be a very interesting last 4 games and an even more interesting offseason on the Bryce front. I really don't have a read on what direction they plan to go. I have suspicions but not an actual read.

Well he was also pretty bad his rookie year. He had a very rough 2.5 to 3 years before it really started to click. But when that light turned on, yowzer. He has consistently been a top 10 IDL and arguably top 5 IDL since 2023. Let's hope he stays healthy and continues to get even better. He is a core member of our new team.

I think we are just also in an era that QB's are being drafted far too high because they mean so much for the future of every franchise. Lots of guys overdrafted based on desperation in the past 10+ years. For us specifically, I think it's time to start investing draft capital more regularly into QB's. Maybe not premium draft capital but 4th to 7th rounders for sure. Set up a steady stream of potential backup QB's to attempt to develop. I also think that for next year at the bare minimum, that we do need to be keeping 3 QB's on the roster. For any team that has an uncertain future at QB, you should have more options on hand, IMO. That would be my philosophy. A healthy mix of veterans and younger guys with high potential.

If you are attempting to make a point about ratios and ignoring the entire body of work, that is pretty illogical. I mean, even if you isolated for 2025 alone it would be very rough on the "good to bad" ratio. That's the problem with Bryce. It's way more bad than good. It's impossible to build a successful, sustainable franchise on that foundation. I will ask you this, if you are the GM, are you signing him to that 5th year option? Are you extending him to a top 10-15 QB contract this offseason?

Backup QB/Fitzmagic effect. Give them enough time and you will see some good tape. Then eventually it will all fall apart as consistency is never achievable. Hence why I am just off the Bryce train entirely. He has had enough time to get some sort of consistency and it hasn't happened. The highs can be fairly high but the lows are just so cripplingly low and happen more often.

I have seen a few articles over the years about the preparation lacking coming from college. Several reasons named but this was one thing I do recall in a couple. I will say that one thing that is REALLY nice about the NIL and the transfer portal is that you are seeing players stay in school longer(more tape, more experience) and also that you see them move around and be in more than one system. I do think that era has really aided evaluation of prospects to some degree.

I mean some of it was leverage and position truthfully, but he really did just push through their tackles. It was wild. After seeing the replay I still couldn't believe it.

The issue is that he has had about 3 "off games" to every 1 "on game." That is just not sustainable for an NFL starting QB.

@Saints - L Bucs - W Seahawks - W Bucs - L Which, if it goes that way.....I don't think anyone should be upset. I had predicted all season long a 4-7 win season and anything close to or above .500 is absolutely ahead of schedule. I still don't know what to think of us but a 8-9 win season would be a Tepper first and 9+ would literally only be the 2nd winning season in the past 10 years in Carolina.

He was fantastic yesterday but I do remember remarking to my buddy after that Corum TD, "How did that little midget just steam roll Derrick Brown AND Ashawn Robinson??" I still don't know how he managed to do that.

I definitely was. People forget how bad those first two years were. So much footage of him getting abused in the run game by all these different IOL. I think he just took more time than most elite players at his position to figure out some of the nuances of the position. Which, he was also there during the Matt Rhule era so the quality of the coaching was definitely in question.

It really makes no sense. People talk about Cam wearing his emotions on his sleeve and it's true. But Bryce's body language and demeanor seem very telling during games, as well. Sometimes you can just tell it's gonna be a rough one. I definitely think he is still plagued by confidence problems.

I kept saying to my buddy that the blocked shots and deflected shots were nuts. That would honestly be a team I would hate to see in a playoff scenario. They have the ability to frustrate the fug out of us. Then they largely tilted the ice during the third period and I was sweating bullets.

I don't know. I don't recall him having particularly high stock on most of the draft stuff that I personally saw. Maybe I just missed it. He definitely didn't take any next step, that's for sure. I will add John Mateer. He was a first round radar guy after his last season at Washington St. and he really did not have a good year at OU. Hurt the team too many times with TO's and poor play.

Have you seen the past two games he has played with Purdy? He is adapting to working around Purdy, because he hasn't played well since his return from injury aside from the Arizona game. Now that isn't typically the case but he has clipped his wings a little it looks like.

Colorado isn't the West Coast.

Also true.

It tough to get a read, TBH. I cannot fathom how anyone with any logic in them would think Bryce is a long term solution or even worth a 5th year option. But, it is the Panthers so you just never can tell.