kungfoodude

Yep. You gotta build something first. We haven't built anything. And I mean really build it. It isn't like Tampa became a serious option for ring chasers in the post Brady era despite "dominating" the NFC South. You have to build something veteran NFL players believe in. Not just a spot to get a massive paycheck.

That isn't gonna be possible until 2028 at the earliest. He has a very freshly inked mega-deal. I do think he will eventually choose to go elsewhere. If they hire Brian Daboll, he will crater that entire franchise VERY quickly.

Andrews is likely to chase a ring or retire. His tank is close to E. Mack is likely in ring chasing mode too. I will take either but I don't think we are a spot for formerly elite players to end.

1000% disagree. One is an elite center and the other is a bottom 10 center. The difference will be extreme. No shade to Mays, would love to keep him around as our utility IOL but he has never played above an average level and that is him balling out.

The zip is what I am talking about. I didn't seem him delivering most of those throws with NFL velocity. Or not frequently enough. Like I said, I only saw a few games so maybe it isn't a big enough sample size but he seemed like a fairly classic "college good" QB to me.

He has gunslinger tendencies but I am telling you, I don't see a high caliber NFL arm. It's very, very average or below.

Agreed. You should always have a good #2 option that can step in for a few games and keep the ship steady. You should always be developing a #3 too. Throw a 6th or 7th at em.

I have seen him a few times. I don't see NFL arm.

They both stink.

He did say he was likely to take a good OC spot over a bad HC spot. A little surprised he didn't go Lions. That's an insane offense to have your hands on.

There is part of this that is true. If you dump a potentially very good QB on an extremely bad team, you get Cam Ward 2025(just an example). However, there is an element of having to shoot your shot when it is available because you don't know when it is going to come again. I would imagine Jets fans aren't pumped that Dante Moore went back to college and are now looking at the prospect of either having to beg/overpay a FA QB, overdraft Ty Simpson or deal with an overdrafted 2nd-5th round QB in a panic.

That's a wild TE class. How do you NOT cut Tremble?

That's fair as a 4th rounder. Bust is harsh. But he has basically had maybe a 4-5 game stretch of good play his entire career and that is it. The fact he keeps getting more snaps ever Evans is crazy to me. I get that he is a high ceiling guy but he doesn't show any reals signs of being a consistent contributor. I did a look at Canales time in TB and here. He really doesn't utilize good TE's, even when he has them.

I don't care about position. Give me BPA.

Day 1 or Day 2 elite guy, 100% fine. Do I think that is reasonable based on the class? No.