kungfoodude

That happens everywhere but it does seem more obvious here. I would say these instances are worse at the moment than normal, for that matter.

Agreed but Denver did get much better on defense after him. I think a pretty good chunk of that was just it being built but I would never consider him in the top 15 of NFL DC's.

We were never going to offer him that kind of change. He hasn't really produced at the level of that deal until this past season. Of the top 10 AAV pass rushers, the only player with a lower career Sack/GM average is Josh Hines-Allen.

He is also reportedly a very, very smart guy. That's why it's so frustrating to see him be so inflexible schematically and with some of the questionable personnel decisions.

Yes but I am saying that money would be completely squandered because he is a net negative in rush defense and Evero literally limits pass rush effectiveness. That's not a $30 mil AAV scenario. We cannot afford to have that kind of change wrapped up in minimal impact players. If we attempt to sign someone like Hendrickson at an inflated price tag this offseason, I am gonna beat this exact same drum so this isn't all about Burns. Now, in a different world, a different DC and a different Panthers team makeup, I wouldn't necessarily vehemently disagree with you on keeping him. But that isn't the current Panthers. The pick squandering I am not even gonna address. I mean, that era of Front Office...."management" so thoroughly put the bar through the floor that it almost dug the proverbial "hole to China." What can we do? They were all completely incompetent idiots that fuged us for probably a few years left still, to some extent. Nothing can change it. We just gotta accept it.

I mean we paid Wharton and Brown a pile of money. It shows that they don't prioritize those positions and also that Evero can't evaluate talent and utilize it properly. I mean....Wharton at NT for so many snaps?? What the actual fug? The list is long of this type of poo. It's very Canales-esque with the forcing square pegs into round holes style.

I think a trade back would be very unwise. This draft doesn't appear to have the crazy depth at multiple positions like the 2025 draft did. It all also is going to be next to impossible to remedy in one offseason. We are still multiple offseasons away from building a quality roster so we need consistent improvement on that front and we cannot afford more 2024 offseasons mixed in. It's going to be interesting to see what happens and the trend. I could see a possibility that we are offense heavy this draft or offseason. That's something to watch. If so, I think it is going to speak volumes about the general mindset of the organization.

Yeah but so many of the worst players on the defense are "Evero guys." That's what I mean.

After the Rams offer was published, we were screwed permanently. It was either pay him an exorbitant price or trade him for nickels. All remaining leverage was completely gone. The return on the draft picks is a larger issue with completely incompetent front office personnel. What can you say that hasn't already been said on that front? It just is what it is. I will again state he would likely have been very, very underperforming here. This should be obvious when you look at his pressures and sacks which were at career lows for seasons which he started more than 4 games. He isn't the only pass rusher that can immediately show dips in pass rush production when they are playing in Evero's scheme. Clowney, Wonnum, etc. I gotta be honest, it's going to be hard to find a double digit sack guy in an Evero defense. In his 4 years in the NFL he has only ever had one player break 6.5 sacks for a season and it was Burns at 8.0.

This is complicated by him being a UFA and being unable to pass a physical. Also, he isn't young to be having that sort of injury. As fantastic as he has been, the plan SHOULD be to get another quality utility OL in the draft and if BC becomes available, sign him off the couch when he is ready to go. He won't have many suitors(as he didn't last season) so I suspect this will be an option. Curhan was fine...for a PS player. I do think we need to aim higher there, as well.

Pretty sure Carter led the NFL in quick pressures and had the lowest Time To Pressure in the NFL. I think he helped that Burns sack output dramatically.

I think people drastically underestimate how bad Canales and Evero are at personnel management and talent evaluation.

There are ample good options for us to not choose.

I don't really think he is good at either. That's the problem.

Ryan Leaf would like a word.