kungfoodude

As an ex-Catholic I was momentarily triggered. Please use a comma.

Technically the Browns are the actual "new" franchise.

NY is bad enough they are a turboprop, not a jet.

I think Moore is an overall more valuable guy due to his special teams play. But, I also think XL should be relegated to special teams or inactive over Renfrow, as much as I don't think Renfrow has been particularly effective. I think Bryce shares a lot of the blame but Renfrow is hardly blameless. He is still a shell of his former self.

I think the "weapons" are a bit overrated at the moment. The potential is the highest in a long time but it still hasn't fully matured.

Lol. He does have a little excessive hate for Bryce. I can understand the sentiment.

Hard to do that with a top 5 contract. Ealiest reasonable out they have is 2028.

Well, I would rather have Trevor Lawrence on Bryce's contract. If you factor contract situations in, Bryce all day long.

Yeah, I mean you are basically describing a Day 3 QB, though. I think that is the problem with all this.

Renfrow has really looked less than stellar. Hopefully he will get progressively back into NFL shape and look better in 2026. Right now he has been very underwhelming. INB4 @CRA getting triggered.

IDK, I don't think Bryce reads fhe field at much more than an average level. If he does, it's hard to see it. He misses reads too often.

I think we just haven't hit "inexcusable loss" as a team yet. I completely understand the other side of that coin. I don’t vehemently disagree.

They both struggle with that but Lawrence is a significantly better athlete and an INSANELY more physically gifted passer. He has very limited reasons to be struggling the way he has. I will say, when he came into the league I specifically remember an interview that he basically intimated that he would be okay if his life didn't involve football and I have always questioned if he was passionate enough to be elite from that moment onward.

I do agree with this. I remember people fighting me tooth and nail in here when he was in Detroit. "Well he doesn't win!!!" Motherfugers, WATCH HIM PLAY. There is no question he is elite. Always has been.