kungfoodude

I think ideally you make your decision early in the offseason. I say that so that we can attempt to move Bryce early while he still might have some minimal amount of value left(Rosen scenario). Alternatively, as you stated, see what happens in free agency and the draft, then decide to move him or not, which would likely be tied to that 5th year decision. My take on how this ultimately goes is that we don't make a move at QB(we stay with Bryce/Dalton), we don't draft a QB and we pick up the 5th. No serious extension talks, though. I think they go partially in on Bryce but not all-in.

My ultimate GUESS is that the core decision makers are fairly aligned on thought process regarding Bryce. My take is that is largely dictated by the ownership and everyone else is just marching to the beat of that drum. I would be surprised if they are off the bandwagon yet. I think the improvements over last season for the team overall are going to drive decision making that leads us to staying committed to Bryce.

I mean, but there is ample evidence that exists currently in the NFL and historically that if you have a talented or moderately talented team then one of the biggest upgrades you can make is at QB. It yields the biggest returns. I don't think even Prime Greg Olsen is going to make Bryce suddenly look like a stud QB. We have invested immense amounts of money on the OL and tremendous amounts of draft resources on WR's. And have added an additional extremely capable RB. At some point, the main problem is Bryce. We are at that point. That being said, we don't need to go "Full Bryce" again and sell the farm to upgrade at QB. Be intelligent and patient. Try to get better by whatever means become available WHILE continuing to make the roster better. At the bare minimum, you slowly build an upper half of the NFL talented roster that is at least a potential draw for some free agent QB's. IMO, Bryce is clearly not the answer. I don't think anyone in our organization thinks that way but if they do, it's not the end of the world. Throw as many reasonable darts as you can through free agency and the draft until either you get a bullseye or a top 10-15 option becomes available in free agency.

I think it's fairly clear he is not dedicated to being an NFL player. We don't have the time and luxury of being able to wait until his 5th year of the NFL for him to start to figure it out much like it took in college. He is just another in a long line of Panthers WR flops. We should all be very familiar with the symptoms of that at this point.

All you can control is the opponents in front of you. Besides, I would rather see a regular G5 participant in the playoffs than a C-Tier P4 team that conclusively proved they couldn't win when it mattered.

Eh....not sure that but I don't think they will be realistic options. It would be nice but unlikely.

Who knows the options? I am just saying Evero likely has all the leverage here.

About the same as your XL fanboyism is. Get that TMJ jersey out for the next game.

Fair enough. I also prefer to call a player what they are. But, I'm sure your faith in Jonathan Mingo will be rewarded in the XFL.

Understand, you were one of those guys. Thanks for confirming. But, by all means, continue to be wrong about "WR's just needing more time" despite literally the past 10+ years of draft data indicating otherwise.

The difference is that I am not a coward that will conveniently "forget" or deny all the times I was wrong like people like yourself. Oddly, I was very right about TMac, Funchess, TMJ and Mingo. Let me guess, you thought those last three "just needed more time." If fact, were you one of the lightspeed idiots that said we would regret trading Mingo to the Cowboys? I seem to recall you were.

Looked into it and this is the last year of his deal. I would be very surprised if he either doesn't leave or completely bends them over a barrel on a contract extension.

They are all ultimately backup tier QB's, at best. My assertion is that Fields is worse than Bryce BECAUSE of those insane physical abilities but I have beaten that horse plenty enough. Chicago was smart to move on after three seasons while Fields had a tiny amount of value. I suspect Bryce will not have that when/if we decide to move him.

I think that is what he is saying, he may be gone anyway.

You mean minus about the last 10 years of the NFL and WR's? This is old school WR mentality when it definitely was true that rookie WR's took a considerable amount of time to adjust. This isn't that time period. Unless you are still waiting because Funchess, TMJ and Mingo "just haven't been given enough time yet."