Khyber53

Let's just give him enough time to do it. It took Andy Reid how many years to win one? And don't forget to add the Eagles years on, too. Good coaches are competitive year in and year out. I want to see the Lombardi here soon, but it doesn't have to be every year for the coach to keep his job. Building teams that have a shot at it and make a run for it year after year is hard enough to do.

I agree wholeheartedly with both of you. In the end, we will just have to see. I get the feeling he knows what he is doing and a HC gig in the NFL seemed to be where the trajectory of his career was headed. I don't think anyone could get bored with a 12-14 win team, but if he did... well, no one said you couldn't blow up your own winning team and start over just to show that you can do it. I like Rhule, I like how he is coaching and building here. Will he be the "One" in Carolina? We're just going to have tune in and find out.

I'm not sure we can say if he's been able to sustain success or not. Seems that as a HC, he has taken dumpster fires, fixed them, made them into winners and then been promoted to the next big gig. What happens after he leaves may not have anything to do with him or what he built. Still, what you say has some wisdom to it. Can a hard nosed coach sustain a team? Does he transform into something different as the culture transforms? I'd like to think that's the plan, but you are right that we don't have any real info to go on for that yet.

Nah, man. That was some Tinderbox level poo. You're a moderator.

They hired Rhule to turn this into a winning franchise. This is how he is doing it. Apparently, this is how he has done it at Baylor and Temple. If he gets the same results here, then we have nothing to complain or worry about. This is how he builds a team. Rivera built his differently and folks will have to get accustomed to the new way or move on. It will take time to get to the prime spot in this arc, but I think we're seeing growth here. This wasn't going to be an overnight fix, although I can't help but think had CMC been healthy, we'd have had four to five more wins over the season. Give it time.

The Saints salary cap thing is a magical and evil beast that needs to be slain. There has to come a day of reckoning for them eventually, right?

1. Oh, we could make a big splash in the draft with TE, but we'd need to ride another season with Teddy. 2. True and he probably will, but it is a signal that we're probably done with the Ian Thomas project. (And he should have been good, we all wanted him to be so, but he just never made that leap). 3. Not sure we're looking to replace Armah, but even though I like the guy, not sure he's a top end Full/H-back. 4. Well, there are some pics that are just priceless. And some available for a price. Some available on a lifelong installment plan.

Let's just hope they don't grab someone good in the draft. What they have on the books there should be plenty.

That may say more about us than them...

I sure hope he does. It'll be good for the rest of the division. He'll revolutionize the Saints like he revolutionized the Bucs.

I'm going to say that had CMC been healthy this season, we'd probably have gotten five more wins. We'd probably also be talking about how Bridgewater was able to eat opponents alive with the short passing game thanks to CMC. We have to remember that the offensive plans for the season centered around utilizing CMC to his full potential. Even though Davis was able to come in and serve as a really good RB1, it still wasn't anything like having CMC back there. CMC is a game changing athlete and requires a ton of defensive resources to keep him under some sort of control. Teddy's short game was good, but with CMC coming out of the backfield, those eight yard pass plays suddenly turn into 12 yard plays, 15 yarders, 65 yarders... The run game increases to the point where the other team has to bring a safety into the box opening up downfield opportunities. A lot of those three and outs become long, scoring drives. Yeah, the CMC injuries wrecked the season for us.

It's not like there's anyone really standing between him on the PS and being our first string TE, as things go right now.

I believe you've hit the nail on the head there. Lot of teams with big contracts are going to be just floating things out there, seeing if there's any interest. If something gets traction, they roll with it, if not, they say "Bah, there was never anything to the rumors, he's our guy."

Jets are gonna Jets. Whatever decision they make, it's probably a bad one.

A lot of really wispy rumors float around this time of year. And it seems there's a bumper crop of them out there. If it were to be true, not sure this wouldn't be a win-win-win situation for all parties involved.

Grab him in the sixth then or whenever it seems like his time is now. Honestly, he looks the part. But also, he was part of a national championship o-line that kept a non-mobile QB clean and gave him time to stretch the field with great receivers. It could be he worked better with his regular teammates than he did with some folks he just met, running new plays and using different terminologies. Something tells me you get him on a good team and bring him along at guard, you can get way more than your money's worth. No sacks allowed in three seasons at Alabama. That's on a top end (championship team) for three years against the best competition in the college. Heck, the SEC is just about a pro league as it is.

Totally edited out the part where he pancakes a Sasquatch and redirects a moose around the QB.

I think he's our guy. And I think he's going to be excellent.

Dude, I can always go for some Cornbread. Oh, you mean the player, nicknamed Cornbread. Oh hell yeah! And if you really want it to be a Carolina O-line you draft a guy nicknamed Pinto Beans to work alongside him. Seriously, though. Deonte Brown would be a great pick-up for us.

Coaches spent all week talking about how good Jones and the other QBs were, then after the game they're like... nah, we're not hot on any of them being first rounders. We'll have Jones in the first or the second. "Now Mac, that ankle looks pretty bad to me. Maybe you'd better sit this thing out." "Nah, Coach Rhule, I'm fine. Look I can run, I can pivot, I can push off and I can plant, no problem." "Mac, just sit there, look disappointed and try to look like an optimistic bust every time the camera pans to you." "And with the eighth pick of the 2021 NFL draft, the Panthers pick Mac Jones, QB, Alabama." "Told ya kid, we'd take care of you."

I mean, it's not like anything has ever blown up in JPP's face, right? Sorry. Couldn't resist. Hate that it happened to the guy.

I don't think we'll release Teddy at all. If someone took him in trade, then yeah, but I think we'll still have him on the roster come September barring that. If we draft someone as QB, then Teddy is someone you want to have on hand to help that player's development. And as a backup, he's a guy that can come in and run the team until the starting QB is back on the field. That $20m+ on the books is going to be there no matter what, so you might as well get some mileage out of him. And I think that was the plan all along with Teddy. It's what I said going into last season after we picked him up. He's the guy for the moment, but he isn't the longterm plan.

I mean, he can talk it and it's obvious he knows the X's and O's part of it. He knows what great QBing looks like. He just cannot put it all together and develop someone at that position. It is his Achilles' Heel.

This, sadly, is probably truth. And it is the worry when trading for any of the QBs that are going to be put out there to test the trade waters. Remember we were putting Cam out there last year and making big statements about how he was good to go and would be fine for any team. Yeah, this is the used car lot part of the offseason.

Not sure where the worries about his contract are, would be two years with $19M a year on the books. He'd be earning less than Teddy. And I don't think Carr is a bad QB at all, but his coach has never successfully developed a QB. There's a reasonable contract and player that might be worth taking a good look at.