Khyber53

Would you have run that guy over for Rhule, Wilks and Tepper? Me, neither.

Screw it. Honestly, if the best player on your team is a WR, and also the highest paid, you've got nothing but troubles coming up. See Dallas. Develop receivers, grab FAs from the second round of grabs and draft here and there. It's an important position, but save draft capital for players involved in every single snap, such as QBs, o-line and d-line, LBs, DBs. A great receiver can break a game open. A big name receiver with a good agent can break the bank and the team's future.

He's been squirrel hunting, then skinning them before filleting and cooking them. That's what you do. Don't judge if you've ever taken a photo of the food you got at a restaurant or made at home.

Hard to argue that, but we are far from balanced offensively and defensively. And I know, we had a lot of problems, having been balanced before in how poorly the ENTIRE team played for the past five or so years.

If you take anything from Saturday's games, it's this: DEFENSE wins championships. We don't have a defense yet. We need to work on that more than anything right now.

First year wide receiver. How about we let the young man develop. Once upon a time, Randy Moss was just some dude with a heavy accent that could catch a ball. (Okay, you might have to go back to his Marshall days but...). Let XL get a couple of seasons under his belt before we label him, okay?

Deshaun Watson most likely will only be in Canton as a day-pass guest or as an event attendee, but he did successfully pull off one of the flea flicker plays of all time, at least when it came to contracts. He simultaneously soaked Houston and then managed to get traded to the Browns for a massive haul not just for the Texans but for his own bank account, netting both one of the largest trade values of all time AND one of the most overpaid, fully guaranteed contracts of all times. I'd say he gave it all up for a few after massage tugs, but let's be honest, he hasn't had to give up anything except some on the field time. And considering how he has played, that was probably in his interest, too. Like I said back then when folks were praying we would land him, sometimes the biggest blessings are the ones you don't get.

The biggest factor on whether you keep a center or not is whether they and the QB are meshing well. Everything else is secondary. They seem to be building that and Mays has shown solid skill growth there. This ain't broke, like you said, and it may even get better. I've been pounding on the table to draft a center high for the last couple of years. This year, I think we should address other needs unless the BPA is a Center head and shoulders above the competition. I think we need to work the other side of the trenches right now. We're good at O-line and actually have some depth. Never thought I'd be typing that statement...

Seems to be a lot of positivity and a lot of chances to earn your shot. That can go a long way in building a team that has forgotten how to win. And honestly, they are showing more grit than I gave them credit for. I have got to, got to, got to see some massive improvement on the defense, though. Get us into the playoffs next season in a shaky NFCSouth and he's our dude, yanno?

Awww fug. We weren't very good on defense even before everyone got hurt. Dude is going to have to make a mid-career course correction like Bryce did before I'll believe in him.

He'd be a great one. We desperately need a smart, fast tackler that can play well as rusher and run defender. We need our next Luke, like we once needed our next Beason, like our next Morgan, like our next Mills.

He'd bail on us the first time we lost two games in a row and wreck the locker room on the way out. Hard pass.

Let's keep building a team rather than building drama and losing massive cap space.

Just because you can see over the lip of the hole you're in, doesn't mean you are out yet. Let's get to the playoffs next season and then we can start talking about redemption and Tepper. Edit to add: And I'd sure like to be able to say what a good job he has done finally.

I believe it still, unshakeably, is.

I hated the pick and proceeded to make fun of him and naysay him up until his benching this season. And with that I thought things were done and done. And I ended up being proved so incredibly wrong. The kid is The Kid. He found the It he needed and he's taken the lead in the team, ownership of the games and made a believer out of me. Can't wait to see him grow even more next season. Young and Pennix are going to be trouble for the rest of the NFCSouth for the next five to seven years. Now, about that defense...

Let's get this thing done and leave with a win.

Let's wait and see how it turns out. Much stranger things have happened in this league. I think we will have to fire him/ let him go, but he might interview well and throw the management team and ownership under the bus during an interview, which he'd create some hard to argue against points. I've been saying he's been terrible since last season and I feel that perhaps he was retained for the Rooney rule pay-off if he got a head coaching gig elsewhere. He's probably the worst defensive coordinator I've ever seen. But trust me, there are many, many much more delusional things that have been said on this board, before and now.

Actually, I hold the whole defense against Evero. It was terrible last year and it's even worse this year. Injuries aside, the players look ill-prepared to play, they are timid in tackling and we seem to be very passive in our defensive play calling. I think Evero will be among the coaches called for head coaching interviews and we may get very lucky and he gets a head coaching job somewhere out there. If not, we desperately need to move on. And he isn't one of Canales' guys, but he was given that extra year here at Tepper's request. I think that boon has worn thin. Any words as to keeping the guy right now are just stagecraft and positioning.

And on defense... never seen a group that had such a hard time making even the most straightforward tackle. We need to move back to the 4-3 and rebuild the linebacking corps. That group has always set the tone for our team. I don't like the tone they've set since Shaq went down and honestly, I don't know if he can come back from this injury.

We also can't forget that neither Blackshear or Boone were any good at picking up blitzers coming in. The team missed Chuba for more than carrying the ball. Chuba this season has begun attacking the incoming blitzer like CMC used to, and that has helped Bryce so much. Hunt had a bad game and there's something that the Bucs coaching staff identified (perhaps during the last meeting) that allowed them to get the better of him again and again. It was way out of his regular levels of performance. Perhaps there was an unreported injury that they picked up on. Ickey. Man, that's one of the toughest jobs in the NFL he has. And our lack of running game didn't help him any. He's doing enough to hang on to the job, but he's performing poorly enough to make him vulnerable to a training camp challenge from a FA vet or a really under-scouted rookie.

This ^ 100 percent.

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Won me over completely last week when he laid out that missile of a pass right before taking that hit right to the face, then popped back up smiling when he saw the completion. The kid has moxy.

Give 'em all a shot, especially on defense. When a "good" defensive effort is keeping the other team around 30 points, you might find some kind of spark. If not, it's probably not going to get much worse. Of course some of the guys on that list might not have seen the field because of minor injuries that didn't have to be reported or something important like they are struggling with the playbook still at this point in the season. Some guys are just part of the background rabble in team meetings, but surely one of these is an overachiever waiting for a shot. Something tells me, though, with Canales uplifting, character building style of coaching, if you can be on that field, you've been given a chance already. And that's a bit worrisome. It could mean that our dregs are the dregs leftover by the rest of the league. A sobering, but potentially true, possibility.