Khyber53

Right now, I think any QB situation is a crap-shoot at this stage in the season. How fast can a guy get on the same page after no exposure to even a playbook here much less relationship building with teammates? Not saying it can't happen, but I don't think we're looking at a San Fran-type situation where the starter goes down and an off-the-street backup (because Mac Jones was really pretty much assigned washup status before the season) takes over and excels. I hope we hit on something. You never know. Baker was terrible here and went at midseason to LA and just blossomed. Then he went to Tampa Bay and Canales and grew into what he could have been. Maybe Canales can do that with Hooker or White. Sure would be something to see.

You said it! But really, it comes down to fixing your organization and the team before diving in for that new QB. Even then, you've really only got about two seasons to do it before the GM and HC seats get too hot. It's a remarkably tough job and it keeps things interesting. Quality organizations keep the ball rolling, sometimes for as much as 10 years of competitiveness. And bad organizations can have an even longer shelf life of hell for their fans.

We seem to play to the abilities of our opponent. Hopefully we can keep pace and eat the clock with a punishing run game and hope that our defense gets a couple of turnovers to give us a chance. Here's hoping Andy Dalton finds the fountain of youth this week.

Imagine being the valedictorian for your Ivy League university. Perfect grades, massively well done final projects, research grants and countless mentions in the newspapers and on TV for the strides you made. And there are only 32 employers out there that can hire you and make use of you. Now imagine that the worst businesses, the ones with the least resources and most chaotic workplaces get first dibs on you. Trumpian dystopia? Nope. The NFL draft. Killing young QBs since day 1.

You know, a lot is going to be made of it, but let's also be honest, the Jets defense is a helluva lot better than their offense. That's actually a modestly okay defense we faced. The rest of the Jets, phew.

You're right but not sure where we can find a QB for trade at the moment. Just looking at bottom dwellers that might be looking for draft capital... Dolphins have Tua, Raiders have Geno, Giants have Wilson and Winston (sounds like a really bad radio Zoo Crew team), is Arizona ready to give up on the Murray experiment? There are some second stringers floating around out there...

Don't get me wrong, I love Chuba, but Rico has been earning the starting job. Now they just need to properly game plan for using a double trouble set up.

Okay, still in honor of the old school great that started doing this back in the day. (Can't remember the name, sorry.) In my tradition of feasting on the foes, we'll be ordering Jet's Pizzas. And of course, Bugles, the best crunchy snack ever. How about y'all?

Really looking forward to this game. It's going to let us know if the recent resurgence is for real or just happenstance.

Pass blocking is a really hard stat to correlate into real world. There are some parts of it that are incredibly dependent on things well beyond the linemen. Play calling can affect it, receivers route running, chipping from backs, QB awareness and mobility, strength of play action, adjustment calls at the line. And those are all things we're still working on here. I also think we are getting closer to the right recipe for our O-line. I think Cade Mays at Center is the right move. BC at guard seems to be working out. And I really need to see Moton back in this line up to see if we are showing overall improvement. We aren't there yet, obviously, but something is beginning to gel.

It's not just growing Bryce's game, it's also the coach growing the entire team's game. We need to be a smash-mouth running team. We're built in the trenches for it, we have the TEs for it and we damn sure have the running backs for it now. If you can make that your bread and butter, then developing a point guard QB that can distribute short passes as an extension of the run game and once in a while burn the other team downfield when they creep up to eight in the box, then you've got one of the classic recipes for a winning organization. Our defense... getting better. But holding the opponents under 30 isn't going to cut it. Hold them under 24 and we're showing progress. Under 20 and you become dangerous. Special teams... started out rough with those bad tackle games, but it has swung about mightily. I think we're onto something here, but we still haven't arrived.

They've said forever that you don't know what kind of receiver you have until their third year. Kelvin Benjamin looked like the GOAT his rookie year to some people. And then injury and happenstance just ended that. Steve Smith was lucky to see the field as a rookie outside of special teams. XL may come along and get with the program. Tet may struggle as DBs have more tape on him to learn his tendencies. Who knows? With both, though, we have four years on a cheap contract and a fifth year option to sound it out. Guys like Coker and Tremayne... those guys you hope they develop quick enough to get them into a good contract for us before someone else poaches them away.

Tua, Jalen Hurts was there for a while, Ken Stabler... those are the ones with success. Mac Jones is looking pretty good in San Fran right now but that's what good coaching and good team building will do for you. Still, I think Bryce is growing, just not in height. His growth as a player is on a collision course with the end of this season. Will he come out on top or not? I'm not sure yet, but if he does win out, then I'm going to be happy for him and us. If not, well, he got a shot and a lot of folks never do... And we're back to the drawing boards.

I think part of the difficulty might be that QBs have a lot of trouble once they come off the Alabama assembly line. That's a tight program focused on competing in the SEC and that school always has a succession line of QBs rolling. They can shred at the college level and then really have difficulty finding their footing in the pros. They can and do, however, eventually find it if they can last long enough. Will our guy? We're just going to have to wait and see. I think he's got this season to prove himself before the team gets antsy and the coach decides to move along to his own handpicked QB.

Odd stuff happening there, but they seem, historically, like a team that can sort things out.

This won't be a trap game for them. I worry more for the next time we face Atlanta. That's a death trap game if we aren't careful.

Luckily, we've got more games ahead to watch and see what happens. Maybe he keeps growing his game, maybe we see that he's topped out when we hit stiffer competition. Or maybe he flames out against a team he should well be able to beat like the Jets this weekend. I really can't tell where all of this will end. I can say, though, there's no reason to hit the kid at the moment. Let him roll for as long as he can. Heck, Sam Darnold is setting the league on fire right now, along with Baker Mayfield and Daniel Jones. Examples of guys mired in bad coaching on bad teams (sometimes our own) that hit their stride just as a team did. Maybe we're about to get lucky. I do know one thing. The biggest change in a winning Bryce and a losing Bryce is that when he plays fearlessly, he is a hell of a competitor. When he gets scared, and he has so many times, it all just falls apart for him and no team can save him. Bravery makes the difference and it comes from believing in not just himself, but his line, his receivers, his running back and the play calling. Just like most young QBs. And quite a few of the old ones. Rodgers couldn't make it in the chaos of the Jets situation. He can in Pittsburgh, so it seems.

That Atlanta game really skewed the stats. Amazing as it was, the stats right now don't tell the tale of the tape yet. Heck, not sure anything does. We've either hit a lucky streak for a few weeks here or we've turned the corner (and for once it looks like the right one). This is a weird season for the whole NFL. I mean, the Ravens are 1-5? The Chiefs came out of the starting blocks and fell over their own feet? The Eagles are melting down in front of our eyes? Luckily, the Jets are still Jetting. Let's hope they get their act together about three weeks from now.

Option 2. Winning keeps the door open. Simple as that, just like with any QB. I don't care what the stats line is. I care about wins and losses. Gunslinger, Point Guard, Game Manager, Athletic Freak, Pocket Passer, Aging Vet... whatever. Get the win, keep the starting QB job. Do it consistently and stay competitive in the playoffs and you are, by definition a franchise QB. And those guys don't develop overnight. It's all about the wins and getting to the playoffs. Rings... well, those are rarer than people think.

So good to see you back! And what a great post. Hope to see more and more from you. There have been some really rough years for the team and there's developed a crusty, cantankerous exterior to those who've stayed through it all. Maybe a little sunlight is starting to peek through the cracks once again and this place can be more upbeat. And yes, maybe having Bryce as the QB as we improve might set the idea of what a QB is and how important the whole of a team is in its right spot. We appreciate not just your return but your insight!

Our young guys are looking solid all of a sudden. Might we be finally on the upswing? Canales keeps this up, there's no telling where we'll be.

He'll end up in Buffalo.

People get trade happy and look at resources as barter items. They fail to see them as resources to be used to our benefit rather than someone else's. Right now, Chuba and Rico are massive benefits to us and a strong rushing attack so greatly benefits any passer, much less a young one like Bryce still is. And the better our running game, the more our offense can eat up the clock, the less time our defense is on the field. And that is priceless, too. Don't mess with the running game. Don't mess with the receivers. Maybe look at our O-line and think we may have hit on something good during these injuries. Look at our D-line and seem some strength evolving there. Our secondary has its good spots and some that are still developing. Our linebacking corps did well this last outing. Our special teams are on a major upswing as of this past week. Heck, even our QB is showing us a little something right now that we can build on. Perhaps putting out a yard sale sign right now might be less advantageous than looking at the team and saying, "You are all part of something good that is happening. We want to see that continue to grow."

We're in a weird place right now, we're not buyers, we're not sellers. Let's ride with what we've got. A new Double Trouble could be the remedy for what has been ailing us. And honestly, I like both of those guys a lot. Etienne, too.

Oh yeah, immensely important. I've been saying we need to scrap the whole lot for about 9-10 years now. We've shown some deficiencies for sure. Then again, coaching hasn't been strong, either.