Khyber53

Am I wrong, but is this just an incredibly deep and wide draft class this season?

What we need, wherever it is, is a game breaker. The Patrick Mahomes, the Julius Peppers, the Gronkowski, the Mack... someone who can single-handedly affect the outcome of not a single game but multiple ones. Now the hard part... identifying them ahead of time.

And if you got 110% ... which is possible. If you watch his tape, he's incredible. And then when you realize that most of it is against top end, play-off teams, he looks like one of the best players in the draft.

Great write-up OP! Thanks for taking the time to do this for us. I really want us to revamp our defense this year in the draft. And it has to start at DE/Edge, but if Warren is still there at 8 I think we should grab him and not look back. Whoever takes him will have a great weapon and the rest of the teams will suffer for it. I don't want to see Warren on another team in the NFC South. And New Orleans picking right behind us scares me.

I think people see him, see Deon as his coach and think that it's going to happen again. Only better. I'm not sold. The kid very well could be fantastic, but he isn't going to hold up playing both sides in the NFL. Some Sean Peyton-guy is going to make sure that he gets clobbered by a safety every time he goes up for a catch and picked off by a TE rub every time he covers a slot receiver. Or he could revolutionize the whole sport. Big roll of the dice there.

Just stay away from Sanders. Thank God we don't need a QB right now!

Honestly, I'd like to see Eddie come back, he's been more than reliable for us. They all miss kicks now and then and he's been better than most. However, there's probably a top end to pay for a kicker when you're rebuilding a team, so he could quickly get out of our price range. If he goes elsewhere, good luck to him, he did right by us. And some other guy is going to get a shot at one of only 32 spots to do that job there are in the world. Good luck to that guy, too. Edit to add: Wouldn't be the same without JJJ around here. Glad he will stay on, there's going to be a lot of new faces on special teams, we need that veteran presence.

Hurney was an ace at picking first rounders. Later rounds...

Why?

Old hens do cluck.

Delhomme had Mangum and Wiggins, but that was balanced by Smitty and Moose and Proehl, probably our best receiving trio ever. (And if you squint a little bit, you can see Coker, XL and Thielen in those roles now... keep squinting, almost in focus, squint a bit more...) Warren, we're talking about possibly a generational talent at the position. I'd say all the stuff he can do, but here's his highlight reel. You'll see him as a receiver, wildcat QB runner and passer, center, running back and heck I think there's a two minute segment of him running a concessions stand during the two minute warning and getting every order correct. If we don't grab him, then I am sure New Orleans will snag him on the next pick and he's going to be killing us for the next decade.

Look, I agree we desperately need to build that defensive line more than anything else right now. I think we take best DL player available at 8 unless... Tyler Warren, that monstrous, multi-talented TE somehow is still on the table when our pick comes around. Then we sprint to the podium and take him. No questions. Sanders played, well, okayish here, but he's probably Tommy Tremble level of play. Get Warren and let him take over the center of the field and the seams and our entire offense wakes up. XL, Thielen and Coker suddenly have so much more room to work and Bryce gets to offer opposing DCs a pick your poison situation. Literally, he's the only offensive player I'd think of pushing our pick away from the defensive line.

You know, I'm sorry. I don't mean to try and put a stumbling block in front of you brother. I just very, very much believe that We the People, is best served by allowing all of us to be part of the We, and not just a select few.

There's no fix. There's never been a fix. No conspiracy of more than three people ever remains undiscovered. It is much, much more likely that an entity like the NFL does market research and happily taps into new streams of revenue as they appear. And the NFL isn't going to risk $20 billion in revenue because they want to fix games just to have some disgruntled referee or third-string special teamer write the tell-all book on how they rigged the Super Bowl.

Actually, before the Rooney rule came into effect, followed by a number of efforts to increase diversity, the NFL coaching ranks suffered from a massive disparity between the people coaching teams and the teams they coached. If you weren't a white man, you weren't getting any coaching jobs up until the last two decades with some very, very rare exceptions. The first minority head coach was Fritz Pollard in 1921 of the Arkon Pros. Almost 70 years later, the first black head coach would be Art Shell of the Oakland Raiders in 1989. Then it was Dennis Green in Minnesota beginning in 1992. Shell and Green would have good to decent careers as head coaches as would Philadelphia's Ray Rhodes (who would also coach the Green Bay Packers). Rhodes would even win Coach of the Year in 1995. Tony Dungy would begin coaching the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 1996. Each of those men fought through a good ol' boys network that kept coaching jobs for white men and made it to the top, and they were used to it, having been almost as rare at the coordinator and lower coaching positions as well throughout their careers. How hard it was for them to make it led to the Rooney Rule, requiring NFL teams to interview at least one minority candidate for coaching jobs. The rule stands today. It does not require hiring a minority. It just guarantees that at least one minority candidate gets to come to the table and make the best case for themself. And honestly, minority hires have risen and the quality of football has grown with it. NFL coaching is beginning to look not just like it's player base, but it's fanbase as well. Ticket sales are through the roof, the viewership has grown explosively over the last two decades and international interest is skyrocketing. Is diversity what caused this? It's part of it. The product has gotten better and with any business, that's what it is all about: better product, better returns, better feature. Now, I've given my answer. How about you answer one for me? Has the inclusion of black coaches, Hispanic coaches, mixed race coaches and female coaches harmed the game. And if so, how?

Good! Hope he does great here! And if the Bill Walsh Diversity Coaching Fellow was his route to becoming a successful coach then great! The league won't survive long if we go back to the old days when there was a bottleneck to access that prevented skilled people from different backgrounds from getting the opportunity to coach. And fug Trump.

I'd originally wanted to see a DE or LB with this pick, but if he's available and our pick at 8, I'm going to be happy with it. Big TE ... will be nearly the size of Gronk with Greg Olsen's brains... that could go a long way for us.

Fame, fortune, fans, enduring respect... all jeopardized for the lowest end sexual experience possible. It's like the Devil had a garage sale.

Another episode. Hope y'all are enjoying them.

There's a lot of truth to this, but I do see them as the same prototype of player. Josh just seems to be the next step along that line. Cam was a bit more physically gifted, to be honest, and I think he continued to rely on it more and more, rather than developing his passing and defense reading skill set. Josh, like you said, devoted more to developing that side of his game. That being said, if you listen to Cam breaking down tape, he's an incredibly knowledgeable QB, but I think Josh has benefited even more from mentorship from more experienced coaching. And yeah, both will eventually be HoF inductees. Just hoping Josh doesn't end up with the Marino entry... gold jacket, no rings.

No doubt and lets hope it's decades before they find another one.

Who knows... there may be another 6'5" 235 lb mobile QB with a cannon for an arm, with even better abilities to read and react to defenses. I thought there'd never be another step past Cam, but then Josh comes along and you see that next evolutionary step in the big, mobile QB group. Generational talents, but also just one of them per generation I guess.

If he ends up in New Orleans, we're going to have hell to pay. He'll spend the first year or two trying to find the next evolutionary step from Cam to Josh to... And if he does it'll be lights out in the floundering NFCSouth. There are a lot of other names on that list beyond Brady's that I'd rather see get that job, purely for the selfish reason that I'd want the Panthers to have an easier go of it.

They do, they really do. And he's a culture building guy that is better at talking with this generation of players than guys 20 years younger than him. He'll turn them around and into a winning team before he chooses to retire.

Ravens home uniform is great, black and purple just looks good. Logo on the helmet is one of the best in the league. Bengals home uniforms also good, still love the tiger stripes on helmet and on the shoulders and legs. Beats the hell out of Paul Brown just copying the Browns' unis and writing Bengals on the helmets. The Steelers uniforms are just iconic. Logo on only one side of the helmet, it's just historic and enduring.