Khyber53

You'd have to go back to Kenny Stabler, Bart Star and Joe Namath. Of course, if that's in your history, that's pretty impressive. You can pick pretty much any great college football program and only get a handful of names for QBs who made it big in the NFL at the very most. It's just really hard to play QB in the NFL. To play it well is really rare and to be at all-pro or HoF level it's a one in 10 million shot or so. Out of the 32 teams in the NFL, probably less than half have even a decent starter. And of those 16, most are just journeymen or are at one end of the arc of their career or the other. The rest are on their way to the bench or to a different career. The college program may or may not matter, but you can't disregard a player's performance within it, against the best competition of his day. Doing so would be pretty foolish.

Sometimes it's easier to build an o-line for a traditional pocket passer than it is to build one for a hyper-mobile QB.

You, too, friend!

If that's the price, then that's the price. Don't want to see us wade into the 2021 season without him.

Dang man, hit a nerve?

Not even close, not even close. Look, out of nowhere you decide it's time to bring up the end of Colin Jones' pro football career back last year to start crowing about it today. Why? Really. Why? It seems both an odd grudge to carry and a really old bone to pick. Unless you're either Haruki Nakamura or Sherrod Martin (the two guys he ended up replacing), there's not much of a reason to keep up some grudge. Really, man? Colin Jones criticism is your best game? Surely there's some take on current players or maybe even some legacy players of actual note. Colin's play wasn't going to have him remembered much by the fanbase down the road, but just like the Karl Hanktons, Nick Goins, Raghib Ismael, or Jason Kyle ... he was a long-tenured Carolina Panther who mainly played on special teams and got a chance to contribute. He had a long career because he came to work and worked at it. He wasn't a gold jacket earner, a ring of honor guy, all pro or pro bowler. He was just one of the guys who went out there and played his heart out for OUR team. There's nothing wrong with that and honestly, a lot to cheer for. Edit to add: If you had to look up some of those player's names, good. You'll learn something about this team and its history.

Neither did you, though.

Don't know. I'd imagine that with $7.8 million in career earnings (avg $870k yearly) at the age of 33, I'd say "unemployment" probably isn't that bad. If he invested well, chances are he's managing a nice portfolio and may own or partly own a number of businesses (as many former NFL players do). He also keeps busy as a member of the board of directors for the Christian Outdoor Alliance. Really, why make a personal attack on the guy? He did something that not a lot of folks do, he played professional football (those who even get invited to one training camp is just a sliver of those who dreamed of doing so in college, much less high school or even those going back to peewee Pop Warner leagues). The guy was in the NFL with an eight-year career (49ers and Panthers), mainly playing special teams but contributing as a rotational player and a starter, snagging 3 interceptions in his career (one for a TD) and played in a Super Bowl. He wasn't Ed Reed, but then again there's only one Ed Reed. No reason to slight the man for his career. Honestly, there's no reason to slight any man for his career, in the NFL or outside of it.

And yet, he's played a lot more pro football than you, right? Lulz

Good luck to Palardy. The Bills will probably get him a ring before we could have. This off season might see some real talent out there among K and P on the open market. Not sure we need to make big changes but you never know what opportunities arise.

The math required would probably rise Ry'leh and summon Cthulhu. Yeah, that sounds like a Sean Payton and the Saints dick move of all time.

I agree with you on part 1 whole-heartedly. I also agree with you one part 3. It's that part 2 thing that has me worried. I'm beginning to think Tepper may be tired of watching someone else play with his toys.

I remember going, "We got who?" when they announced Olsen would be coming here. Talk about a guy finding a home and making his new family proud. Great guy, great player, hope to see him get a gold jacket some day.

Tedium, pure tedium.

He's a good guy, but he never really had the chance to make his mark here thanks to injuries. Minnesota seems to be a better fit.

Tepper is a trophy guy. Trophy franchise. Trophy house. Trophy wife. He buys those things with the success he's had elsewhere. And that's understandable, it's kind of how it is done (from what I've seen). I believe now he's trying to buy a trophy QB in Watson thinking that will also buy a Lombardi trophy. That (from everything I've seen) can't be done. The Bucs didn't even do it with Brady, they had the foundations solidly in place including coaching and depth and defense before Brady was out there for the asking. Brady saw that, the tools he had to work with and who he could bring in.

It's going to be hog-killing day around the league. There's going to be a lot of blood letting. And if you're sitting there with a fair chunk of change in your pockets, you can pick up some good building blocks cheap. Hopefully, Tepper is wise enough to make the most of this rather than just keep all that money in a pile in an effort to blow it on one big star.

#1 at chasing a crack pipe dream is still just disappointment or disaster waiting to happen.

I'm beginning to think the owner of the team doesn't know poo about football.

Please, stop. The trade for Watson crap just keeps getting more and more ludicrous. Let it go and move on. If we went through everything everyone has suggested AND somehow managed to talk both Houston and Watson into moving here, not only would we have a major hit to the old salary cap, but new contract in a couple of years and a QB who has the entire organization by the short and curlies. Getting him could potentially nullify both the new GM and the head coach, not to mention any other players of note that somehow remained untraded. This is actually beginning to get pathetic.

So sorry I didn't see your post until now. Sounds like a rough, rough time and I hope things have smoothed out for you. Prayers sent up for you.

Sadly, the outrage over such an incident (if it happened and if the video is re-released) may be even bigger than the protests over police brutality on human beings. If they don't end up showing it, you can bet that whoever leaked it to them will leak it to a bigger network entity. This won't go well. And it shouldn't. Still, watch and see who was against BLM and now suddenly wants a police officer to be pilloried.

Sheesh, just offer the Jags four #1s and Teddy Bridgewater for their pick. At this point, what's the harm. If you are going to trade away the future, might as well get the pick of the litter.

You're right. Bad research on my part.

You're right. Bad research on my part. Texas has zero income tax.