Khyber53

I still think that Stafford will end up in Indianapolis. It just fits their current plans. They are built for the now, they just need a good QB and for the ball to land the right way a few times. Rivers was close, but maybe not enough tread left on the tires... Stafford could hit the sweet spot for what they want.

He does and he will and that's how you build for the long term. It's not like he isn't going to be close with the veteran players, just moreso when they are his veteran players.

No national championship for Will Grier. No undefeated season. Didn't help one of his receivers win the Heisman Trophy. Will Grier college career comp %: 65.7 (621-945) Mac Jones college career comp %: 74.2 (413-556) And I don't think anyone can really realistically compare the programs at WVU and Alabama. Plus, did you watch the national championship game this year? Jones was totally in control behind the line. He made passes all over the field, at all levels, read his receivers quickly, delivered the ball efficiently with plenty of zip and amazing touch when needed. And he was going against an excellent defense. Was he playing behind an excellent line? Yep and we should make it a point to draft as many of those guys as possible over the next few years. C'mon man, you've got to be kidding with the Wil Grier thing...

I agree wholeheartedly. Football players who are students of the game are what you want. The guys who study it rather than just get out there and win on athleticism. And I am there with you on Mac Jones. I think he's the best choice for this team and our future. If we drop the first rounder on him straight up at 8 I will not complain one bit. Others will howl about it until about week six of the 2021 season. Then they'll be singing his praises. Or cursing our stupidity if we don't take him.

The Eagles Super Bowl changed people's perceptions of the team because they were simply winning. We now see that it was partly because of how weak the NFCEast has become, but also partly because they caught lightning in a bottle -- something powerful but short-lived. We have to remember that the Eagles, for most of their history, have been the NFC's Jets. Lackluster performance on the field, long-suffering fans. And most importantly, a horrible management and ownership situation. (Remember even Andy Reid couldn't produce continuing success there, even with Donovan McNabb and a team of high-dollar all-stars -- there was just too much suckatude from team management.) I'll guess that the Eagles haven't so much collapsed as they have returned to their norm. And boy, this new HC sure seems to fit that bill. Eric Bieniemy will get to be a head coach when some good team's head coach retires. And he will either build or maintain a dynasty there. Think New England, Seattle, Pittsburgh or Baltimore -- places with long-tenured coaches.

There's always good value at the #8 pick spot. We've had it three times in our history and gotten Tim Biakabutuka (short career, though), Jordan Gross and CMC. Other #8 picks of note include guys like Ryan Tannehill, Ronnie Lott, DeAngelo Hall and Willie Roaf. That being said, there are numerous wiffs at that pick as well. Let's face it, there are some teams that are constantly picking at eighth and above. Those teams often have generationally bad (sometimes near century-long bad) organizations replete with some of the worst scouting departments you can imagine. I trust Rhule to request the player he needs to fit his plans (which might not exactly jibe with the Huddle's plan). I also like the possibility that new team management might be reinvigorating our scouting department (which needs more wins on picks in the second through seventh rounds).

I think you can and have to coach up QBs. Good coaching is refining skills to get the best performance out of an athlete in an effort to reach their maximum potential. Game planning, on the other hand, is used at all times to hide weaknesses on your side and exploit the other's. The right coach can certainly take an unfinished product QB, bring him into the NFL and forge out a great player. You can see it in action right now in KC, Buffalo and Cleveland. Even Mahomes had to sit behind Alex Smith for a year -- and Mahomes has been very open about how much Smith, Reid and Bienemy elevated his abilities. Where there is some major truth in your statement is just how hard it is to do that with a QB in the NFL today and not many coaches either can do it or have the luxury to do it. Rivera really couldn't do it, Gruden couldn't do it, the other Gruden couldn't do it, so many coaches have died on the vine because they couldn't provide the fine tuning and refinement that a college prospect may need.

I still think the Panthers are being catfished by Watson.

And all three have questionable relationships with their team's futures right now...

Thanks for explaining that. I had it differently in my mind and it does change some of my thinking. I stand corrected. The rules of the salary cap are byzantine and incredibly malleable.

Because Cam owned the locker room, even if he couldn't play anymore. A new coach can't come in and have a player running the place. Even on a good team like the Packers, a diva can create massive resistance. On a losing team, like we were/are that rift is massive. Cam had to go, much like Smitty had to go to give Cam the leadership mantle.

If you could get that off your books and onto some other idiots, wouldn't you?

Those hits happen all the time. Teddy. Alex. Brady. Theisman. Cam. Luke. Delhomme. Really, in this game that's how most great players end their careers or end up as a shell of themselves. And then you're on the hook for those contracts. If we get Watson, I'll cheer him on. Not a problem. But there will always be the question if we'll be paying too much for him up and until that contract is over. There will also be the question of how bad that contract is going to hamstring the entire team over time.

Just let him get as many players in the draft and UDFA each season as possible and let him build. What he wants to build here doesn't come in a bottle and you can't buy it. So let's quit talking about doing that. Let the man do his work.

If you hated the Matt Kalil signing, you're really going to regret this one AND the draft trade implications. You mortgage your future drafts AND salary cap to get one player who is just one Alex Smith-type hit away from being out of the game ... and you are still on the hook for him. Fellas, if you just sit back and wait, Watson will start yelling louder about the trade, more teams will walk away with it and maybe Texas will be willing to trade straight up for Teddy just to get out from under the $82 million cap hit in 2022-2023 followed by another $37 million the next season. And there's no get out clause until 2025. That contract makes a Hurney contract look like a genius did it. The Texans were hamstringed by a bad coach that needed that QB and he (as GM) literally sold the team out to keep him. And then he got fired. Learning to move on from your own mistakes is something we all have to learn. Moving on from OTHER people's mistakes is vitally important! Just walk away from this train wreck.

I agree totally with what you said. I wasn't completely aware of the Robinhood shutdown's impact and the ramifications behind it. Thanks for educating me!

I've been calling Mac Jones for a while here. I still think he's the real prize out of this crop. Just not sure if he'll make it to the second round or if we'll trade back in the first and make a run at him then. Edit to clarify: Not to trade back INTO the first to get him, but to trade back from 8 to like 15 in hopes he's still on the board. Get our guy and pick up some extra capital.

K-Mart by the Sea.

Honestly, he's hoping that Rodgers does talk his way out of Title Town and that job opening pops up.

The house always wins in the end. Vegas wasn't built on winners. In all honesty, though, this is a good thing. A group of minor, wee minor, players got involved together to push the game in their favor and the big money players never saw it coming and didn't understand it when it did. Here's why it is good: Our system isn't rigged. That's right, our system isn't rigged. It does, however, have a byzantine set of rules, opportunities and pitfalls that have come to be exploited by those who have the money to fund massive research not just in companies and investment vehicles, but to research the underlying math, laws and game theory (heck even chaos theory) to get every edge possible. They then have the funding at hand to make massive investments where their profits are just pennies per unit, but create ongoing profits. Those moves and manipulations use billions to make millions every day creating virtual money machines. Moves like the Gamestop/AMC one can put a quake in the market. Nothing as financially devastating as the mortgage meltdown (and yeah, those big funds were the movers behind that), but something to make them take stock (no pun intended). Shake 'em up. Run a couple of the bad ones into the ground. It's sometimes important to harpoon a whale or two.

No. Please no.

Stocks outside of buy and hold is just a big monetary game of hot potato. Sooner or later the music stops and you get burned. Maybe this is really a good thing to happen to the market.

We are our own worst enemies here in the US.

Some fool will pay it, or close. Let's not be that fool.

We often don't.