Khyber53

I don't know about the stans but he's at times been like 60 percent of the offense on a playoff calibre team. He put up 1202 rushing yards and 10 touchdowns, then had effing 102 receptions for 924 yards and seven receiving touchdowns. He touched the ball 413 times this season (an average of 24 times per game.) Then you have to add in that he's a hell of a blocker when called upon. Without him, the injury depleted 49ers in a hot NFCWest division don't make the playoffs at all. If that isn't the Most Valuable Player on the team then who should be? The idea that it is an award solely for QBs is just narrow. Edit to add: Will he win it? No.

I have been just gobsmacked by how bad tackling has become on this team, and honestly, league-wide. Everyone wants that Sports Center kill shot shoulder block or the Peanut punch attempt. Just give me Luke, TD or Shaq getting a solid tackle and bringing the ball carrier down right that moment. This is why you need linebackers leading the defense and setting the tone.

Got to give some credit to the coaching staff on these. You can grab top talents but without good coaching, they just fizzle out. We've seen that a lot around here.

Back to DJ Moore. I don't care what has been said. Wish he'd never been traded away from us. Quality receiver and an even better man.

Robinson would be the money-well-spent extension. Tremble has been blessed with a cool name that's easy to remember and some decent ability. Sadly, that doesn't translate into second contract kind of money with a crowded and under producing TE room already.

I also look at his work there and match it up against the planned obsolescence that is part of the NFL as it sits now. Part of what creates parity here is that as a team ascends, the costs of its players go up, the position of its draft picks go down, it's great players age or get injured to often, their assistant coaches get poached for higher positions elsewhere. And even the best of managers can't hold that off forever. Great managers can only play the shell game for so long, covering one hole in the team while another wears through, betting it all on a small cadre of veteran stars, sifting through the diamonds in the rough, hoping for something great. Sometimes they can do it smartly, sometimes they just break and give in to the wrong contract here or there in a desperate attempt to hang onto something. Sometimes the voodoo juju just runs out and they find themselves catching up to that can they've been kicking down the road and they end up in cap hell for a couple of seasons. And sometimes they're just the Jets. And the managers are also at the mercy of the whole coaching deal... great coaches eventually falter -- their schemes become old school, their locker rooms change. It just all wears out over time and that's good for the whole of the league.vReally, did we want the Patriots to have yet another decade of dominance?

I think you have to look at Beane's outcomes in Buffalo (a team that was a shambles when he got there) and see how they were able to come from the cellar into the catbird seat for nearly a decade, supplanting and eventually uprooting the legendary Pats and Belichick. Morgan has had... it's probably too early to grade Morgan's effort. Our move from the cellar upwards coincided with some crashing under their own weight by our division mates. Straight up, though, I'd take Beane in a minute.

I think a lot of folks remember him very fondly from his time here as DC during that 15-1 season and the Super Bowl appearance. Not trying to knock Canales, he's showing some promise, but he's still a young and unproven coach when compared. We aren't making any kind of trade, but...

<jaw drop>

You've gotta quit crying about old girlfriends. Just move on. Plenty of fish in the sea and all that. Truly, though, Burns found something in himself and it may well have been that he found himself as the senior member of a line with some high drafts, low performance guys and he began to lead by example. I believe he's put on some pounds, too, which had been a knock on him early on. Good for him and glad to see him develop... those stories don't always work out so well. And yeah, we need some help at linebacker.

Buffalo, Seattle, New England, Rams Buffalo, Rams Buffalo.

And remember how the vast majority of us here on this board spend a lot of time in the locker room, on the bench and going out to dinner with the current players and coaches of the team. Who better than us to have our fingers on the pulse of what's really happening in the real Panthers. Sometimes our surety of statements around here gets so very, very thick.

I'll be honest with you, since they got into the NIL rules and quicker transfer portals, the quality of QBs coming out of college has sucked across the board. The ones who seem to do the best are the ones who sat a year or two on a bench, then had a year or two on the field under the same coaching staff, learning the game, how to manage and how to lead. Those guys are almost unheard of now. I know college football was monetized decades ago, but when they just tore the lid off of it, they made a mess of the game. (And let's not even touch how they have screwed education...)/

I don't know. Dart looks like he has potential and Harbaugh has experience with dealing with that kind of QB and helping him elevate to reach his full capabilities. Lamar Jackson was pretty raw, but gifted when he started out, but now he's looking at a legendary type career. And Harbaugh seems to have a steady, guiding hand on organizations. That may just be what the Giants need. They've been rudderless for a long time. Not that I really care, though... but I do like anyone who can make the seasons tougher for the Cowboys and Washington.

I frikkin loved those uniforms. Dark uniforms looked like bomber jackets.