bigjohn

Keep building the roster through the draft. If Bryce is as bad as some of you say, then we can pick up a vet backup at the end of next season who will win more games and put us over the hump.

Things most of us should agree on: -Bryce has improved over the year -He has had some very good moments in clutch situations -He has a good O-line, running game and one good (proven) receiver -He isn’t as big and strong as other qb’s -He misses some throws and still has lots of room for improvement Things we don’t know yet: -We don’t know his ceiling -How long we should give him to develop (Darnold, Mayfield) -How he will look with another viable receiver or two I know it’s the cool thing to do to want to throw him out and move on. People are so impatient (and as Panthers fans we have moved from hopeless to impatient, which is actually a good sign). I don’t pretend to know if he will ever be “the guy”, but I’ll take improvement right now. And I like the job Morgan and Canales have done so far and am inclined to see how they can develop Bryce and the team.

And the NFL wants to push the schedule out to 18 games.

I don't know if we can win big with Bryce, but going all in on a top QB in the draft isn't an automatic formula for playoff success. Aaron Rogers is one of the most talented quarterbacks of all time, played most of his career for one of the premiere franchises in the league, and he's got one ring. Dan Marina is (in my opinion) the greatest thrower of the football of all time, and he never won a Super Bowl.

But then some here would say it's against trash teams, at the end of the year, garbage time, etc. I'm with you. I'd like to see him get more yards passing. But like everyone knows, we basically have one legit receiver in Thelein and he's not going to get YAC. He's a fantastic possession receiver, but it would sure help to have someone else that's a threat to catch a 5 yard slant and take it for 30.

But according to some in here, possibly competing for a division title isn't worth it. We should lose on purpose and completely poo on any late season wins. You know, keep stock piling top 3 picks because that's what good franchises do. Do that 3 or 4 more years in a row, THEN try to win on purpose. That's the formula for a Super Bowl, amirite?

I don't think he'll ever be worth what we gave up for him, but that's not his fault. He really has one proven wide receiver, and for the most part he's doing what is being asked of him. Would love to see these young receivers develop, add another one, and see how he continues to develop. We have to develop the rest of the roster. I wouldn't mind seeing some competition for Bryce in camp next year, but don't want to spend draft capital on it. We have so many other needs.

When you have a severe lack of talent, exacerbated by injuries and no depth, coupled with a young QB and head coach who are both still finding their way, this is what you get. Growing pains. Let us see how the team reacts next week. Keep building talent, develop your young players, and build a winning culture back.

Icky continuing to be absolutely solid. Another reminder (to myself as much as anyone) to not write off these young guys so soon. Hopefully Legette will follow....

Exactly. And I'm down on XL at the moment, but not giving up on him. The look of this team is SO different than weeks 1 and 2. If XL has that "dawg" in him, he will work his ass off to improve. I have to say with the mentality this team has shown, I think we have some guys that will push each other to improve. I wasn't so sure of that earlier in the season honestly. And I think we have a damn coach in Canales. Also trusting Morgan a bit too. Regardless, I don't feel hopeless anymore.

And I'm down on XL but we were all (well, 99%) down on Bryce too. Hopefully Legette gets on that improvement train. I'm down on him, but not giving up.

Growth with Bryce, belief in Bryce, Canales looking better with play calling/design every week.... get some guys healthy (Brown and Shaq) and keep filling in the pieces (looking at you, receiving corp) and developing some of our young kids... things are looking up. Just KEEP POUNDING.

Can we pitch in a buy XL a juggs machine for Christmas?

BRYCE fuging YOUNG.

fug.

YUGE.

Is Legette even playing today? We need to get Theilen a few more sips from the fountain of youth to stretch his career out a couple more years. Guy just knows how to play the game.

Cade Mays was perfect on that TD. Shoutout to this Oline.

fug you Philly!

Will be interested to see how Bryce reacts next possession.

Who would have thought at the beginning of the season Icky and Bryce would be at the top of the list. Got to love it!

LOL at this thread. Half the complainers say we abandoned the run too much. The other half say we played too conservative. This is just rich, man.

BPA in the draft. Anything on a deal in free agency. Stockpile talent. We aren’t in any position to be choosy about position.

Everybody is a fuging expert that should be head coaches winning playoff games. Sports absolutely bring out the dumbest poo ever. Not sure why you didn’t become a head coach in the NFL instead of a doctor, teacher, accountant, electrician, burger flipper… whatever career you decided on. Jesus Christ people of just poo.

It feels so good to say this, and I didn't think I'd be able to say it with Bryce... but THAT'S MY QUARTERBACK!