Mr. Scot

Agree with this, though it's fair to point out Stroud's deep ball is better. Don't think anyone is that worried about how good he can play so much as they are how long he can keep playing.

Agree on Brugler...

Is the situation better now, though? I know some would say it's always been this way, it's just open now. Maybe that's true, but is it a good thing? (granted, the Livvy Dunne thing kind of has its own questions)

One of a million characteristics you have to look at... I have always loved football, but there are times when I realize I'm glad I don't work in it, at least not as a decision maker. By the end of an offseason cycle like this, I'd have no hair, no nails, huge bags under my eyes and would likely weigh about 400 pounds

Just gonna throw this in here...

Yeah

That's true in other areas as well, and something I learned the hard way I skated through high school. High school was easy. When I got to college and realized I'd actually have to put in some work, it was...an adjustment. Lots of NFL careers rise or fall on whether or not players can make that same adjustment.

Can Dorsey handle it though? It's like I said about habits. If a game is going bad I feel like Dorsey could be a lot like Rivera on that front.

I've said before that there's generally a reason why schools get a certain reputation for certain positions, but you've got to be able to discern those things...same as with a guy's reasons for poor accuracy issues. Habits to me are also a big part of it. How many times have we seen someone get coached out of a particular issue only to fall back into their previous bad habits under pressure or adversity? There are always just going to be some things you can't fix. The trick is being able to pick those out from the ones you can.

And again, I get that. I just don't know that it's something you can consistently duplicate. Part of me also questions whether Allen is going to be able to keep it up given that the Bills are pretty much using the Cam Newton playbook with him.

Honestly, a lot of them give me those vibes but that's probably because I'm old

I enjoy "wild" drafts, but generally only if we're not part of the "wildness"

I get it

Ouch

Levis looked way better in 2021 (enough to generate talk of him going #1 overall) while working under a similar system to the one we'll be employing. Hell, there's even a coaching connection there. If the accuracy issues can be fixed, why wouldn't you take him?

And if we take Young and he doesn't, we'll feel stupid, especially if Stroud becomes an MVP level player. It's not any kind of argument.

That's basically my point though. I've said you can fix things like footwork and technique but if a guy "simply isn't a very accurate thrower" (which I'd generally chalk up to pour hand-eye coordination) yhat's not correctable.

Lemme ask you this: Do you believe enough in this idea that you'd support drafting Will Levis? He's got superior physical tools to both Stroud and Young plus far better game tape from his 2021 season than Richardson had in 2022. So if his accuracy issues are fixable, why not take the chance on him?

Those are the kinds of things I'm talking about that you can fix. But can you easily turn a general vicinity passer into a consistently laser accurate passer? Don't think so. You can minimize the weaknesses of a Brett Favre or a John Elway, but you're never going to turn them into a Drew Brees.

I've seen some of those things. I get it. My question there would be which is the more valid statement: "There are exceptions to every rule" or "Hey, If this one guy can do it, that means everybody can do it." I've seen my fair share of supervisors try to apply that second idea. The results generally haven't been good.

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That'd fall under "exceptions to every rule". If you only needed one example to disprove anything, that'd open up an awful lot of stuff. (Including some things related to our current quarterback height debate)

But again, how many other examples can you point to? Accuracy to me has a lot to do with hand-eye coordination, and I don't know that you can teach that. You can teach somebody how to better place their feet, fix their release point, etc but I think that's only going to go so far. Hell, even now Allen still has some off-target passes (granted, every quarterback does)

That same argument can apply to any player. What if we pass on Stroud and then find out the size argument on Young was valid?