Mr. Scot

Your argument has been to try your best to minimize Matt Rhule's influence (even denying that he had full control when every source says he did) in order to put more blame on Scott Fitterer. The true person engaging in half truths, spin and deflection is you

Which was what the 49ers were doing with Lance...

Here's something else to think about...

Chark has better hands. And while I know he wasn't on the field in 2015, I still think Thielen's best comp is Ricky Proehl. I can sign on to that.

Here's the question from a speculative sci-fi writer though... If Smitty had been 6'2 / 220, would he have still had the attitude, drive and fire that he did at 5'9 / 190?

Thanks for posting this Jackie. I only saw this happened after it was over and I meant to go back and watch it.

Heh Kudos, dude. I got a good laugh out of this. I might have to change my avatar now

Nor should he. As a coach, he's going to expect full effort on every play whether it's practice, preseason or whatever. That's his job. To be clear though, that's not the same as fans panicking over preseason results.

So your stance now is that everybody lies and we can't believe anything that anybody says...except Matt Rhule when he talks about how he didn't really have full control despite everybody saying he did. You've really amped up the bullsh-t on this one

Saw that... horrible

Sorry, wrong. Plenty of people who worked for the Panthers (social media, for example) pegged Rhule as a narcissistic control freak. The bit with his kids is part of that. And to be clear, they're not toddlers (his youngest is eight). And yes, he's a liar. He's bullsh-tting. It's his thing. I'm indulging it because I'm bored

You think there is some truth found in the statements of the guy who equated being booed at a basketball game to his kids being threatened... Yeah, sure

Side Note: I read this thread title in the voice of Bonnie Raitt

Gotta wonder if any of that has to do with the injury that were now hearing about.

Yet you only focus on Fitterer. If your belief is that everyone in a group combines to make the decisions, then why are you solely focused on a guy who's changed the vast majority of the people around him? Is that "consistent"?

Panthers football is more fun with Duce around

Legedu...Oy That guy had the worst body control I'd ever seen on an NFL field. Whenever he jumped for a pass it looked like a toddler on a trampoline.

Thing is there's plenty of material out there talking about who did what, who said this about that, who was where and why and more. You don't want to hear about any of that because it doesn't fit with your narrative, but it's there anyway.

...and only drops four F bombs in the process of explaining it

Joking aside, Newton's height was definitely an advantage. It's like if you're trying to find somebody in a crowded room, standing on a chair makes it easier. Young won't be able to take a chair out on the field, but nobody doubts he's got the brains to run the system and ideally make the most out of his talent.

I wouldn't call what you're arguing "consistent". The biggest difference is Rhule was a guy who actually tried to have as much control as possible. No one describes Fitterer like that.

Nope. Rhule had his staff (originally Hurney led and organized) guys like Pat Stewart, Evan Cooper and his other coaches and scouts, some of whom ended up leaving or being let go before Rhule was even finished. In that area, it's worth noting that after 1 year on the job, Scott Fitterer was given a blank check to remake the personnel department however he saw fit. This while Rhule's influence was diminished