Mr. Scot

Think I'm gonna go buy a Mega Millions ticket... (or should I go with Powerball instead?)

Canales is currently under contract through 2029. If Bryce has a bad year next year I'd bet dollars to donuts that the following year sees Dan and Dave being allowed to pick the guy they want to replace him. Zero logic to cleaning house just over Bryce, especially when you consider that neither of them were in charge when he was taken.

Doubt he'll ever be elite, but as I've mentioned previously it is fair to point out that he's improved over the past two seasons and could further improve next year also. I'm still not confident in him at this point but none of us can guarantee that won't happen.

Even if Bryce doesn't have an elite year next season, I wouldn't hold my breath on that.

That's a philosophical take. Whether or not he deserves a huge amount of blame for a certain game (specifically, the last one) isn't really a philosophical question. But since you posit that as an NFL quarterback he deserves a lot of blame for losses, can I assume that you'll also affirm he deserves a lot of credit for wins? (that would be consistent logic)

I suspect there'll be a significant gap between what we need and what we'll get. Better backup? Yeah, probably. Any form of competition for Bryce outside of a team ping pong tournament? Wouldn't bet on it.

J Jonah Jameson Jansen weighs in... Alongside Luke McCown...

They're examples of denying reality. Here are some others: ,- Bryce is the worst QB in the NFL right now (no he isn't) - Bryce is the worst QB in NFL history (no he's not; that's stupid) - Well then Bryce is at least the the worst QB in the league over the last three years (nope, he's actually improved a lot since year one, which was a turbulent year anyway) - That's not true, he hasn't Improved one but since his rookie year (oh come on) - Well, even if he did, we can't win with him (obviously we can) - Yeah but not unless everyone else is damn near perfect (think the game film from our wins this year would back that up?) - Even so, we won those games in spite of him (officially the stupidest argument available) And no, those are made up. You can find those quotes and other equally moronic statements in various threads around the board. I know some folks always need to characterize whatever they're against as the worst thing in existence. It's hyperbole, and it's hypersilly. Likewise, you've got some who are so absolutely emotional about it that even if you think Bryce isn't good enough (which I do) they'll still call you a stan if you don't agree to label him the lousiest passer in existence It's just dumb, and it's not realistic. But on the flipside, here are some statements which are; - Bryce is indeed capable of both playing in, and winning, an NFL game. Not on a consistent level though, and consistency is huge. - He is also capable of completing mid-range and even some deep passes; hell, he threw a beauty this past Sunday - Yes, he has improved over his rookie season and over last year. Arguing against that is disingenuous. - Believe it or not, other players are the roster do make mistakes in games also. - And lastly, while I know it hurts some people's narrative and arguments, Bryce does indeed deserve credit for the winning games he's played in this season. ... Every single one of those statements is true. And since i acknowledge all that, I must be in favor of keeping him in place then Except I'm not ... Don't know of anyone who doesn't think he'll get the fifth year option. Not ready to guarantee anything beyond that, though. So bottom line: Yeah, Bryce is fully expected to be our quarterback through next year. If there were a logical, realistic path to acquire a more capable starter and transition Bryce to a backup I'd be elated, but that's a pipe dream. This where we're at I don't **** it, you don't like it, others don't either. But here We are so let's make the best of it that we can.

I do too, but I'm not denying reality in the process. If I wanted to make an argument to move on from Mitchell ,(I don't, but for argument's sake) and among my main debate points were that he was too short and hasn't caught a pass this season, would you accept those as valid points?

Actually, it'd have to be Canales. We've been going downfield on a pretty regular basis since after the first Saints game. If Bryce couldn't do it before, did he suddenly gain the ability just a few weeks back? Obviously not, so evidence shows it has to be a change of coaching strategy.. ... Evidence, plus I'm pretty sure Canales said so at some point over the past few weeks ..

Not really... He wasn't. Took a look back at the clip. Shough is still upright less than 3 yards from Ransom. He dropped to draw the penalty. A quarterback pulling a stunt to draw a penalty isn't a new thing. Hell, they're often coached to do so. Shough was asked about it afterward and came clean...

You sure about that?

No it shouldn't

Try it.

Norris is a professional analyst, previously with NBC now with Underdog.

More from John... Belichick was famously known for taking league penalty rules and twisting them to take advantage. He's far from the only one.

That's not terribly shocking. I know what a lot of people liked about him here was that he took responsibility for things. It was a very pleasant change from Matt Rhule's deflection and finger pointing.

There is, and people outside the fanbase are talking about it. But with that said, the controversy is long running and not limited to us.

Evero's contract is up anyway. No need... Still not ready to bail on Canales... No one else on the coaching or front office staff I'm dead set against keeping right now. It'd probably be Bryce.

I would...as a DB coach. That ain't happnin' but I'd do it.

A good offseason would be a really solid start. I don't think there's just a single thing. Feels like we're better than last year, which is good, but not quite there yet.

Still amazed he wasn't fired after last year. Announcers questioned yesterday why Derrick Brown was backed off in pass coverage on an important down. Likewise, he had guys playing way too far off the line (past the first down sticks) all too often. Expect he's gone next year either way.

Disagree, but it doesn't matter. Evero's contract is up at season's end and I haven't seen anyone suggest the Panthers will bring him back.