Mr. Scot

I don't know whether she thinks anything like that. Don't honestly care. Dave by himself is bad enough.

That's one incident, and a minor one compared to the whole "madam" thing. Point was he was a hotheaded a--hole prone to emotional decisions. He'd have been awful.

I'm really not. Spartanburg was hot as hell. (though you could argue that might have been good for the players) Actually believed the idea of putting a practice facility in Fort Mill or Rock Hill was a good one. Even using the old Heritage USA space might have made some sense. The execution of those ideas though...left something to be desired

Mentioned it elsewhere but it likely applies here as well... Jones says that Fitterer "helped Reich make the decision to draft Young over C.J. Stroud". Lots of different ways that could go, but most of them not good.

I forget who, but someone mentioned Jansen as a guy Rhule wanted to get rid of because he saw through the bullsh-t.

Yep, though that was a long time ago when my body still worked

Well from all accounts, Jon wasn't insane. His being dead kind of limits that particular option though

That's assuming people still want to do that

Heard that story too... Mark was definitely not the answer.

Today might not be the best day to do that

Also this from Jones ... Fitterer...helped Reich make the decision to draft Young over C.J. Stroud "Helped" More recently, I've started to believe that Fitterer may have been the driving force behind convincing Tupper that Bryce Young was the right pick. We heard rumors back around draft time that Reich preferred Stroud. McCown also seemed to be of that disposition. But whether Tepper preferred young himself (or was persuaded to), Fitterer convinced Reich to change his mind or just held the trump card that Tepper was on his side in the decision, the end result would be the same.

Things that are easy to see for average folks aren't always so easy to see for billionaires with big egos.

From a previous employee, Mark Richardson once threw a massive temper tantrum (and may have even threatened to fire somebody) over someone leaving a newspaper in the wrong place. I feel pretty comfortable saying Mark would have been an unmitigated disaster. Jon might actually have done okay, but he passed away so...

More from Jones: It’s rare, but most NFL teams would be much better off if their owners entrusted a sharp team president to run the organization, including the hiring of the general managers and head coaches and selection of players. If they could keep their fingers out of things and let the true experts work together without the threat of meddling or fear-induced power struggles, then maybe, just maybe, the owners would receive a greater return on their investments. But “that’s no fun,” one AFC front-office exec said, when asked why so few owners utilize such an approach.

Now this from Jonathan Jones Some of the one-and-done firings were justifiable, others were not. But all reflect a common truth: Most NFL owners have no clue what they’re doing. For all of their business success, many NFL owners have no idea how to run their teams, and in general they’re awful when it comes to hiring head football coaches. That’s why we see so many ill-fitting marriages, such fruitless efforts and short tenures. Yes, there are some owners who know how to evaluate talent or can identify potential coaches with strong leadership, communication, organizational, motivational and strategic skills. But the majority? Shoot. Most owners are nothing more than billionaires playing real-life fantasy football. They guess here, follow popular opinion there. Then they roll the dice and hope they’ve gotten it right. Tepper perfectly embodies the problem with NFL owners. The highly successful hedge fund manager had learned a little about the league during nine years as a minority owner of the Steelers. But that knowledge obviously was limited, because in his six seasons as the Panthers’ majority owner, Carolina has exhibited not one ounce of the stability and shrewd decision-making for which the Steelers are known. Instead, Tepper now is looking for his fourth head coach since 2019. He just tabbed special teams coach Chris Tabor as his second interim head coach in two seasons and his third in five years.

Genuinely did not think things would get worse than they already were. But damn

I'd guess that both Rhule and the Daboll story playef into the decision. Yet another overcorrection, it seems

There's a good site available down in Rock Hill 🫥

Same was true of Campen before he got here. Now it's a trifecta...

Does he even want to be here though? He'll likely have other opportunities. Why would he choose to stay here with all this bullsh-t?

Well there is that one guy... Would love to hear what he thinks of all this

Said it elsewhere: My thing was that I wanted to see Fitterer and Reich have another year to build something together, but now it turns out they weren't even working together. I cared less after Reich being fired anyway, but this pretty much seals things.

Rhule was the guy behind that. Doesn't matter now though. With the stuff that's come out from Dianna Russini today, It's pretty much impossible to keep him. How do you hire a new head coach and ask him to work with somebody who went behind the previous coach's back to talk to the owner about him?

Can't agree with that at all. I know for sure that if I'm the next head coach, and I've heard that something like this was happening on the previous staff, I'm not keeping a single damn one of them. I don't care how good they are at their job.