Mr. Scot

And this from DeShawn Williams... What the hell, people?

Message from Thompson...

I will throw in one other comment I appreciated...

Eeehhh, what do you know about it?

Who's getting open, where on the field they're getting open, how far downfield they are, whether the passers were caught and how many yards were gained after the catch and any number of other things you could throw in would pretty much all be receiver metrics. As a quarterback measure though, what it tells us is that when they're open, he's getting then the ball in a spot where they can catch it.

Saints reporter Nick Underhill had this... That tells us where Thomas was headed and why he was going there, but Underhill indicated he didn't have any more details than that.

They didn't include the raw numbers (would have been nice if they had) but based on the percentage calculation, there would have to have been at least five since a score of 80% would mean a factor of four out of five at the very least. NFL.com has Young on record as having thrown a total of 71 passes in the first two games. And while I know our receivers don't seem to be doing great job of getting open, I'm going to guess there have been more than five open windows out of that total.

Not what they're measuring. They took all of the throws that he made and calculated how many of them were to open windows. The answer was one of the lowest in the league. though not actually the lowest if I read the chart correctly (looks like there was one lower). That was the horizontal value of the vertex. The vertical was how accurate his throws were to those open windows when they were available. That's where he scored the highest in the league, even higher than guys like Mahomes and Lawrence. Calculating weather he missed open windows would have required a different stat criteria, basically counting every offensive pass play regardless of whether there was a throw or not. That's not what the data covers. What it basically boils down to is that he got the second fewest opportunities to throw to an open receiver but he made the best job throws when they opportunity was there.

John's a great source for deeper analysis than you'll get from most reporters.

I'm gonna need some context to this... Then again, maybe not

I'd still likely guess benched, but Reich didn't clarify.

Hot takes are generally dumb takes. You've got a bunch who are going to throw out panic takes at the first sign of adversity just so if things actually do turn out bad they can say they said it first. Mind you, if the takes wind up looking stupid they'll either act like they never said them or go "oh, I'm happy to be proven wrong". Yeah sure Nuance, patience and perspective aren't popular ideas on the Internet.

I'd give that title to Rivera over Fox, honestly. But yeah, it's not saying much.

We've still got some folks on here who want Newton back or think we need another version of him to be any good. Reality though? There aren't a whole lot of Cam Newtons out there. Newton was way more unique than a lot of folks give him credit for. The guy who people thought was this year's version of him has already been hurt in each of his first two games, with the second injury being a concussion. What's also still true is that passing rules the NFL, not running. If your quarterback can't read a defense and be an effective passer, it doesn't matter if he's the greatest runner in the world. You're not going to win a Super Bowl with a guy like that. If you believe we can, then maybe you should push the idea of trading for Taysom Hill and making him our franchise quarterback instead

Not talking about your reaction when I say that... Some of the others on here though

Good analysis. My biggest read off of that final drive is the improvement from last week. Against the Falcons, Young didn't look comfortable running an up tempo offense at all. This week, he handled it quite well. (and no, I don't give a sh-t if it was against prevent)

Appreciated, though I'd probably say I don't really have a full "assessment" yet. It is still just two games. As much as anything, I just disagree with the emotional "everything sucks" overreactions I'm seeing. In truth, not everything sucks. There were actually good things to be seen in the games played so far. And that at least is encouraging.

Yes we did. We had three scoring drives before the final one. Those field goals count too. As to the final TD, the Saints may have been going prevent, but once we got close they realized they'd screwed up and quickly adjusted. Even with that though, we still scored on a very good play by Young. That was, as mentioned, the first touchdown that the Saints defense had given up this year. They held the Titans to field goals only. More to the point though, Young actually looked like he knew what he was doing that drive. In week one, he didn't look good running the up tempo attack at all. Hence, improvement.

You shouldn't be. This is basically panicked decision making.

Realistically, 2023 was always going to be a throwaway season. I'm not sold on the idea that next year will be though. As far as promising, not throwing three interceptions is a good start Better though would be that we faced a superior defense yet scored more points than last week, even with a starting guard out.

That's where I disagree. I definitely saw things I liked in Young's game, and improvement over last week (all chronicled elsewhere). Could he turn out to be a bust? Sure he could. He could also turn out to be great. It's just way too soon to know.

Damn @Ricky Spanish, just looked back over the board and saw three pages worth of new threads about how everything sucks. Makes me glad I'm not a mod

Nah, I don't see that as a failing. Maybe just a nervous moment at worst. Part of the reason I'm not worried about Bryce is I've seen probably hundreds of new quarterbacks in my time watching football. Most of them start off looking like sh-t, even the ones that turn out to be great later on. Peyton Manning tends to be a prime example (his rookie year was pretty bad) but a better comparison in our case might be Drew Brees. He didn't exactly set the world on fire in San Diego, hence why the Chargers decided to move on with Philip Rivers. When all was said and done of course, Brees and the Saints had a Super Bowl win while Rivers and the Chargers didn't. Rivers was certainly a good QB. Brees was just more successful. You might not have predicted it early on though...

There's a title

Yeah, didn't see it. Sure as hell not gonna look for video of it. My Steeler fan sister in law might have though. She was watching that game.