Mr. Scot

So again, no matter what anybody says, including the people directly involved at the time things were actually happening, you still prefer your version of reality. Right

Mike Kaye's summary of events (or non-events)...

Speaking of which... I hadn't seen this till now

That's what I'm wondering too People are saying it doesn't look good for Ryan Poles, but assistant hiring is up to the head coach so it's really on Matt Eberflus If he's brought in a bunch of low character guys.

What's most important to me is the symbiosis. If you have two guys who are independently good at their jobs but also work well together, that's the best path to success. Who hired who or when they got hired is really just incidental. My preference has always been to hire a GM first and let that GM hire the head coach. That's the way it's generally done. But that's no guarantee either.

The Belichick coaching tree has Dutch Elm disease.

More info from the other firing today... Haven't read all the details yet, but yhe story's being compared to the firing of Alan Williams earlier in the year, so apparently it's related to some kind of off-field situation. Yeesh

Not sure it even matters. It's the Raiders For what it's worth, Gruden had full control and a puppet GM but still ended up scapegoating him. Mind you, I'm not sure Mayock would have been any better on his own, but damn did he screw up a good broadcast career with that move. Gruden, Mayock and Matt Millen are all examples of how it's easy to sound like you know it all until you're actually put to the test.

Again...good luck with that

Quotes from Thomas Brown himself... Thomas Brown has had just more than seven weeks since he agreed to terms to become the Panthers' new offensive coordinator to work on building a new playbook from the ground up. ... "You come in with the thought process because you understand what you're interviewing for and what job you're about to accept," Brown said. "But it's always different when you get there. There are always new challenges, new ideas that come up, and things you probably haven't prepared for, which is probably part of on-the-job training. I don't care how long you've done it; it's going to always happen to some capacity." ... Brown's experiences – especially his past with the Rams – color the Panthers' new playbook. Input from head coach Frank Reich and position coaches, along with their roster evaluations, have also played vital roles. And yes, the playbook was built from the ground up. "The beginning for myself and the rest of the staff was really breaking everything down to build it back up," Brown said. "So building a brand-new offense from ground zero essentially based on what we've done before, both myself in my previous experiences from the Rams, but also in college as well. Then kind of blending together with what Frank has done, and guys in the room as well." Thomas Brown dives into the work behind creating all-new playbook

Unless you've got some Urban Meyer style dysfunction going on behind the scenes, you're not gonna know something like that in just one year. Plenty of coaches who turned out to be great got off to rough starts.

And that's an idea you're comfortable with?

Not saying he is. But we've seen a couple of would look to be questionable roster management choices this year. Heck, that was one of Ron Rivera's downfalls. Just hoping it's not a trend...

And if we clean house here, who's doing all the hiring?

From Mark Davis? Oh, hell no

Dave Ziegler, hired January 30th 2022... Josh McDaniels, hired January 31st 2022 I've seen a couple of people talk about simultaneous hiring as if it were some kind of guarantee for success. It really isn't. McDaniels and Ziegler were hired together. Hell, they even had an extensive background of working together. Hiring circumstances don't guarantee anything.

...against mostly terrible teams. He really only had one quality win (Detroit) but also one painful loss in a horribly coached game against the Bucs where he stood by and watched Mike Evans score the same way repeatedly. That performance probably cost him the job as much as anything else.

I put them in the same category. Basically, "brains" as opposed to brawn. It's ultimately semantics...

Maybe, but I'm not so sure of that. One of the areas where I have questions about Reich is his depth chart decision making. The aforementioned Raheem Blackshear not getting reps previously is an example of why. Likewise, Tommy Tremble is starting to look decent but was sitting behind Ian Thomas on the depth chart.

It was reported previously that the Raiders "couldn't afford" to fire McDaniels because they couldn't muster the cash to pay two head coaches at once. Guess we'll find out...for the next four years.

This is never a good assumption. Davis is not someone i'd ever hold up as an example to follow.

Meanwhile in Chicago...

Never liked McDaniels as a head coach.. Granted, I could have seen hiring him over Matt Rhule, but hey... In years past though, I'd have taken him as an offensive coordinator in a heartbeat. Anymore, not so sure I'd even do that.

Good luck with that... The Raiders have been operating this way since Davis's father was alive and it's gotten them nowhere. The alternative is to not be dumb.

Fast processing is part of being smart.