Mr. Scot

Again, you're talking about a standard of evidence when I'm telling you the NFL doesn't have to meet one. This will likely have as much to do with PR as it will what actually happened.

As mentioned in one of the articles, the NFL doesn't have to meet thkind of standard a prosecutor does. "It probably happened" is enough for the NFL.

Roethlisberger also pre-dated the Ray Rice video and the NFL's image problems. Fair or not, the league views Hardy as a reminder of that story.

Neither did Roethlisberger. The league doesn't care if they admit it or not.

I know the feeling

Here's the big monkey wrench in the whole notion of re-signing Hardy. There is the very real possibility that Hardy gets suspended by the NFL for six games or so. Last year, the Panthers paid Hardy for a full season but only got to use him for one game. (who's at fault for that is irrelevant to this point; it happened) To sign him again, Dave Gettleman would have to be able to accept once again devoting a contract and a roster spot to him for less than a full season of work. Do we believe he's willing to do that?

If he were to have any chance of returning, it would probably be owed to Ron Rivera.

Paying him what the Cardinals did would have been a worse choice.

That thought crossed my mind.

Someone wanna ask Bruce DeHaven how he'd feel? (I think I can predict the answer)

Yeah, a pretty good number of us have outkicked our coverage.

Sub-forum sounds like the best idea to me.

I don't know anything about his religion (not really relevant to the discussion). I do know that after his stated use of the "act like an idiot so that your opponent winds up arguing with himself" strategem, I was forced to yield

I don't think the Panthers salary cap will be affected at all by Greg Hardy.

Aaaaand weirder. Oh

Yeah...Except you just said you hadn't. I think we're done here. Uuuuuh huh. Officially weird now

Never heard of Mike Remmers. Wow. Oooookay then...

You don't know who the guy who started at right tackle (and graded out really well) for the latter part of the season is? You don't actually even watch the games, do you?

I love that the phrase 'same old same old' is used to describe a two year stretch where the team accomplished something it had never done in its entire history Reality is this kid is perpetually bitter about his favorite player getting cut so now he wants to cast everything Gettleman does as failure. Problem being of course that none of what he says is especially accurate, so it winds up looking like what it essentially is, an angry child whining because he's not getting his way. What's especially sad is that this is actually the most hopeful for the future I've seen this board in years, but I guess some folks just can't let themselves enjoy it.

Yeah, there will definitely always be a...nah, I can't (too lowbrow)

'Gettleman cut Steve Smith so I hate him and I'm gonna say that everything he does sucks regardless of whether it has anything to do with reality' is pretty much your whole shtick. Get some new material, kid.

Bout what I expected. Everything sucks The names 'Norwell' and 'Remners' dont mean anything to you, do they? I suppose you can try and keep this 'everything Gettleman does sucks we should fire him and bring back Steve Smith' tantrum going if you want, but no matter how much you want it, it's not going to happen and it makes your take on the whole thing ilook uninformed , bordering on delusional. Try telling Jerry Richardson you'll hold your breath till you turn blue. Maybe that'll help.

You do realize we had a draft last year, right? I ask because I notice you avoided the topic. Had one the year before that too. Both drafts went, ya know, rather well, especially this past one. Signed some solid undrafteds too. Had a 12-4 season in Gettleman's first season as GM after some good free agent signings on top of that aforementioned good draft.year and won the division. Won it again this year after going on a really solid late season run, largely thanks to rookies that were picked by....guess who? This has, in fact, been arguably the most successful two year period the franchise has had. Oh, but he cut Steve Smith so I guess none of it counts

That part I think you can count on.