Mr. Scot

It means nothing. Guilty parties often call 911 to try to make themselves look like the victims. As to the victim, she refused treatment at the scene but was taken to the ER. Your theory that he would have hurt her much worse has no basis in fact.

What I've read so far doesn't sound too good for Hardy. Regardless of how the story played out, her having treatable injuries - especially given the size difference - looks pretty bad.

'Restrained' is one thing. And you don't generally get 'head to toe injuries' (something which can be verified or discounted) from being 'restrained'. If she was thrown into a bathtub and down into a futon as is being alleged, that's a whole other story. So tell me, do you want the actual truth or do you just want Hardy to come out of this untouched regardless of what happened?

She would have called 911 while being held down? Hardy being the one to make the call doesn't mean a thing.

If he actually did beat her up, would you blame her for suing him? Or would you suggest she deliberately got herself injured looking for a payday? Does that work with rape too? Do girls deliberately get themselves raped to get paid?

Or could have just married and divorced him. Or come up with a story and faked some minor injuries. You don't have to risk actual injury - or worse- if all you're doing is setting someone up.

You're not alone on that front. There's a dozen kinds of stupid going on in this thread. "Can't be true or she'd be dead..." - Yeah, I'm sure the injuries she was treated for are just imaginary. Maybe she has friends who work at the ER helping her with the set up. "It's okay if he hit her if she hit him first." - Size doesn't matter, right? So what if you're an NFL player and she's just a little over a hundred pounds? If she looks threatening, you can do whatever you want! "She's just looking for a payday." - Oh sure. Lots of girls spend eight months in a relationship just looking for a payday. And plenty of them get themselves beaten up too. I mean it's not like they could sue by faking an incident, right? Guess she must be a method actress. Some of us actually are waiting for the story to play out. But there are some here whose version of 'waiting for facts' equates to 'waiting for a spin on the story that exonerates a guy on my favorite football team'. You don't want 'facts'. You want Hardy off the hook so he can go back to playing football. Whether or not he actually did this is of lesser importance in your minds. Which, frankly, tells me you're not much of a man. Makes me wonder what your significant other would say if we asked them how you treat her. There are, believe it or not, more important things in this world than football. If Hardy is indeed guilty of violence against a woman, I'm not interested in excuses. He deserves whatever the law - and the team - do to him. That's all. No excuses. No exceptions. You don't get a pass on hurting a woman because you're rich, famous and athletic. If he's innocent, good, but not because it means he can keep playing football. Good because it means he didn't hurt a woman and he's not the kind of despicable lowlife that would do something like that. The way the story is playing out now, I'd have to say it doesn't look good for him. Her having treatable injuries (including an arm in a sling) looks pretty bad. If any of what's being alleged is true, then it's all but a lock that he's no longer a Panther and his best bet is probably a plea bargain and counseling.

Not really even sure what Smitty's trying to say in the context of this story.

Really hope that's not true. Pretty bad story if it is.

Took math classes from Michael Vick?

Based on what? All women are liars? All women who date athletes are liars? Athletes never do stuff like this? What? What's your justification? We know nothing at this point. I hope it's not true, but assumptions that the victim is a liar just because she accused a guy you cheer for are ridiculous.

Side Note: Dammit dammit dammit dammit dammit dammit dammit dammit

Always the best option. That said, stuff like this rarely comes to an easy conclusion.

Here's the actual WSOC TV website link. http://www.wsoctv.com/news/news/local/cmpd-panthers-de-greg-hardy-arrested-domestic-viol/nfwB3/ Dammit

Are you sure that's a legit link?

Harold Carmichael was 6'8. These days, most guys that tall end up at TE. No opinion on the kid in question, but you asked

That explains a lot...

There's some sort of hypnosis going on here...

Long live the King...

From The Masters (retweeted by Ed Werder)

You're kind of an a--hole (that applies to the 7-Eleven picture too)

That came out way more positive than I was expecting.

Here's something you don't see every day... Apparently, the walrus fell asleep on top of a submarine as it was surfacing.

Wrong. There was some kind of weird creature riding on the wing and tearing it up piece by piece. One guy saw it but nobody believed him. They thought he was nuts.

Something tells me she's got more sense than the American version.