Mr. Scot

Remember the first two years Rhule had final say. And again, you have to factor in that this season we transitioned from Rhule and his systems to Reich and his systems which meant some prior players no longer fit what we do (misfits aren't necessarily busts). Going back to Russini though, she mentions that ownership is "satisfied with the defense and special teams". They only have issues with the offense. Specifically, Reich's specialty. That doesn't sound like it's a roster issue in their minds. Russini also adds this: I have learned those in power want to start seeing an offense that looks like what Young executed to precision at the University of Alabama, which included bubbles and RPOs, and that leans into his strengths. That sounds like someone above the head coach dictating football strategy to the head coach. Could mean Tepper. Could also mean Fitterer. But either way, that's not good.

The "coach he was" had players on a winning team hating him so much they wanted to leave.

It's also worth looking at who the two head coaches were prior to Ryans. The hires of Lovie Smith and David Culley were greeted with responses like "him?" and "who?" You can also look to the Raiders going for Lane Kiffin back in the day or even Josh McDaniels given the lack of trust he had after pulling out of his last hiring. Can you still get a head coach with bad team ownership? Sure. Are you going to get the best head coaches in that situation? Only if you luck into it, and that's not something I feel comfortable counting on.

Lemme also throw in that the premise of this thread is pretty much derailed by the first four words in its title.

Kinda hard to picture a "generational prospect" with 32 fumbles.

That's been reported as the job he really wants. And with a good shot at the #1 pick,it makes sense

He may not necessarily have to convince him of anything. If it's true that Tepper is the one who was sold on Brtce Young and influenced the decision, who do you think she's going to blame for things going wrong: the GM who was equally sold on him or the guy who was coaching when the problems happened?

He didn't turn down the Panthers. He turns down being a head coach this season because he felt like he wasn't ready. He may still not be or he may get an offer elsewhere, but the notion that he declined the Panthers is incorrect. The question would be whether he, or any good candidate, would want to work with an owner who fired a coach just one year in.

As to the story, I read the full article. Here's what I got from it: Her take seems to focus on Reich as the object of Tepper's concerns. Scott Fitterer is only mentioned as having hired Reich. She says in passing there are some who feel the roster isn't right for the offense (it isn't) but seems to feel the roster is solid in other areas. She adds that the feeling around the league is it's too early to say anything definitive about Bryce Young.

Johnson grew up in Asheville and was a Panthers fan during the Delhomme years

Tepper already interviewed him once and passed for Matt Rhule.

Just listened to this, sounds familiar...

Wasn't it just two years ago that Harbaugh got interviewed for the Vikings job? Story there was he walked in like he owned the place and was ready to start giving orders, till they told him" eeehh, no thanks, we're good"

Not so sure the play calling is the issue so much as the plays. Hell, when Reich was doing the playcalling we were actually scoring more points.

Ellis chimes in...

That'd be daily screaming matches

No idea whether he will or not... ...but he should.

That depends pretty heavily on who he put in charge of the offense. Given their success last year, that very well could have been McAdoo. Also likely would have expected Al Holcomb to keep the DC spot. For whatever you think of our current staff, I'm not especially convinced that one puts us in a much better spot.

Official...

I could see that. And if so, then yeah it likely would have been Arizona Part Two

Explained that elsewhere.

Definitely possible...

Does firing a GM send any better message when the league wide perception is that you influenced the top draft pick?

Staff-wise, at least... They could still change the approach.

Even in bad circumstances, can always count on Colin Cowherd for an (unintentional) laugh