Mr. Scot

I think that's a reach. He preferred the Rams or 49ers, but that doesn't mean he "didn't want to come here". He was willing to go anywhere except New England.

McClain and Breer have way better sources than Florio does. Both say the Texans are likely gonna take this to the mat. Funny thing is that McClain is actually arguing they should trade him. But at the same time, he acknowledges that they're "adamant" it's not going to happen. Breer actually thinks some other NFL owners might privately encourage McNair not to give in because of the precedent it would set.

Valid. Having that franchise guy doesn't solve everything if you don't build around him.

No argument. He was good. Just better at making noise than making plays.

Not sure why people are talking about an agenda behind this tweet. There isn't one. Breer was just mentioning a thing that happened. You don't necessarily need to approach everything somebody puts out there with "Well, what are you trying to say?"

Not sure if you'd call it a lie, but Florio did turn out to be way off on this one.

Valid. Admittedly it's also fair to point out that as a player, McClover's bark was significantly worse than his bite. As to the story, I could see somebody in the locker room going up to Burns and saying "Hey man, your brother said the team should get rid of me. What's that about?" But I doubt that merits more than a shrug and a "Well, you know how he is" in response.

McClain and Breer have both confirmed that the Texans are already getting offers but aren't responding. They're not even returning teams' calls to say "thanks, but no thanks". As to McClain, the reason why he came up with a trade offer is because it's what he thinks they should do.

I don't. Per a couple of different reports, teams have already been calling the Texans to make offers. The Texans haven't been responding or returning those calls. They're serious about holding on to him.

Breer confirmed what McClain had said previously, that teams are calling the Texans with offers and the Texans aren't responding or returning those calls. They're dug in right now.

C) The notion that Watson is doing everything he can to get to Carolina is a fan fantasy.

Wow

Turns out we came pretty close... Wouldn't have been all that bad a deal either.

A few more details from a couple of sources... In his latest MMQB, Albert Breer confirms that we did indeed offer the #8 pick...plus a later pick. Also says that ours was the highest draft pick offered (which makes sense because nobody above us was chasing him). Added that it was down to us or Washington before the Rams stepped up their offer. Peter King added that although Stafford was open to going anywhere except New England, he did prefer Los Angeles or San Francisco. King also believes we may have been willing to add Bridgewater to the deal but isn't dead certain.

I've seen a couple of different sources say he did.

Is it September yet?

Actually I've read numerous tweets and news items about our offer. It was already pretty much confirmed that we had offered the number eight.

We didn't offer seven picks. We offered the number eight. They just got mixed up who had what pick. What more we offered on top of that? Unknown.

I think that's kinda the point.

Speculation is fun, guys. But if you seriously think the Texans are gonna accept a deal based on "hey, we think these players are pretty good" then I'd say you might want to prepare for disappointment.

And the Texans aren't morons. Actually they are, but Caserio isn't. If anybody thinks they're going to get Watson without making a deal that hurts, they need to rethink it.

The framework John McClain mentioned included two defensive starters. I seriously doubt they can be talked into seeing the immense value of Shaq Thompson.

With them needing to replace JJ Watt, there's no way you get a deal done without offering Burns.

I'd say it's the second. What the organization has been putting out there is it would take a bigger deal than has ever been made in history.

McClain is anything but a Texans mouthpiece. You should read some of the stuff he's written about Cal McNair, Bill O'Brien, Jack Easterby and others.