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Panther Fans Offseason QB Trade Quick Reference
Mr. Scot replied to kungfoodude's topic in Carolina Panthers
There's some timelines / deadlines to consider here too. For Watson, if nothing happens by this year's draft you can basically put away that saga till next year because the Texans are said to be 1) willing to let him sit out the season and 2) not interested in any deal that only involves future draft picks. As far as Stafford though, the Lions need to get that deal done by March 21st. If they don't they owe him an additional 10 million dollars for this season. -
About the only thing I could see from the team's side in a case like that is fines, maybe suspension for "conduct detrimental" or some such. Worth remembering though that's also a really good way to piss off your teammates. Like say, the OL guys who are the only ones standing between you and the 300 pound monsters that wanna crush your skull.
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I didn't know John Fox posted on message boards. For the record, the team has said repeatedly they're looking for long term contention, not a quick fix.
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Key issue in the whole thing is that McNair absolutely doesn't want to do it. Even if Caserio and Culley were on board, they'd still have to convince McNair. And per McClain, that would require "an unprecedented deal", basically "more than anyone has ever traded", and even then they'd still have to talk McNair into it. That's a big reason why I'm doubtful it happens. If we were just talking about getting Caserio / Culley to relent, that'd be one thing. If McNair digs his heels in, then we're talking about his ego and him having to admit he lost the battle. Basically, that ain't happnin'
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From the McClain article... Deshaun Watson and the Texans have two options each when it comes to the quarterback’s trade demand. Watson can continue to let agent David Mulugheta work behind the scenes to pressure general manager Nick Caserio to trade his client, including leaking to the national media how miserable his client is and how determined he is to get out of Houston because his relationship with the team is irreparable. If the Texans refuse to trade Watson, he can tell them he’s willing to sit out or retire, which few would take seriously because he’s a great quarterback in the prime of his career with a $156 million contract that’s set up him and his family for a lifetime of luxury. As for the Texans, they can call Watson’s bluff and remind him and Mulugheta they negotiated in good faith the four-year extension that averages $39 million a year. They can reiterate how much they love and value Watson and that he’ll continue to be their quarterback as long as he’s under contract through the 2025 season. Or Caserio can field a multitude of offers from quarterback-desperate teams, listen carefully to their proposals right up until April 29 — the first day of the draft — and engineer what could be the biggest trade in NFL history. ... The Texans have known Watson wants out since Caserio was hired. It became official Thursday when the trade request was leaked to the national media, and the Texans knew it was coming. Their response is and will be that Watson is their quarterback, he’s under contract, and they have no intention of trading him. That’s what they’re telling teams that inquire about Watson’s availability. That will be their response until somebody makes them an offer they can’t refuse. This isn’t going to end soon. There’s no hurry. The draft is three months away. Training camp is six months away. ... If they reach a point where they believe it’s in the Texans’ best interests to trade Watson, Caserio will have to persuade chairman and CEO Cal McNair to let him pull the trigger on what should be an unprecedented deal.
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Honestly don't think so. McClain indicated that if Watson were to threaten to sit out, etc. that the Texans were prepared to call his bluff. He added further that there was only one team that might be able to push a trade in this scenario, and it's the Jets. Though he added that it would require "more than anyone's ever paid for a quarterback trade in NFL history".
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The Lone Ranger: What to do with Matt Paradis?
Mr. Scot replied to WarPanthers89's topic in Carolina Panthers
I remember when people were talking up his signing as evidence that "Marty 2.0" was improved (Oy). Definitely not a fan of his, but with all the rebuilding that we're already set to do, have to admit it's possible we've got another year of him coming up. -
I don't really think the Texans are going to go to Watson saying "Okay man, where do you want to go?" and then call that team. They're going to try to field the best possible offer for them first, then see whether he's willing to accept it. Mentioned earlier, I don't think it's absolutely necessary that he only has one or two preferred destinations. He might just have certain parameters that could fit a lot of teams.
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Albert Breer's writeup covers several different aspects of the game and the week leading up to it. How and why the Senior Bowl is happening amid a pandemic There's a decent amount about the Panthers and Matt rule. Here's the part that's most pertinent. So who are the potential long-term beneficiaries of that effort? Really, it’s all the players and teams. But more than anyone else, it’s the Panthers and Dolphins, who, because they’re coaching in the game, brought traveling parties of around 60. In a year when any sort of personal interaction with the draft prospects is going to be at a premium, Carolina and Miami will have been in meetings and at practice with nearly 70 of them each. Conversely, one NFC executive said to me that “the idea my head coach isn’t going to be face-to-face with any one of these guys before the draft is unfathomable.” That’s why, when Panthers coach Matt Rhule went to his staff with the idea of coaching in Mobile, despite a draining first year in Charlotte, the guys were on board. “We’re still building a roster,” Carolina defensive coordinator Phil Snow said over the phone Wednesday. “It’s important at every position that we evaluate properly for this draft and the following draft. ... We talked about it, said, ‘Hey, let’s go do this thing.’
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I remember that story. Pretty sure all of us admitted we'd have been crying like little children if that happened to us
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We don't really even know that Watson's going to have one preferred destination. He may find three or four different places acceptable. If so, after that it's just a matter of choosing the best offer. But hey, it's possible that behind the scenes, he's kicking, screaming, pounding the table and threatening to hold his breath until he turns blue if they don't trade him to Carolina. I just don't think it's all that likely.