Mr. Scot

They've been pretty dumb in the past. Whether or not they're still dumb now that Nick Caserio is in charge remains to be seen.

Here's a fun contrast... "Marty Hurney is one of the best recognizers of college talent in the nation, period." - David Tepper "I am not an evaluator at all." - Marty Hurney

Marty was still the guy with final say. Likewise, he hired all the people that gave him info. So ultimately he still gets credit for the good choices, and blame for the bad ones. I'd also have to imagine that as time went on, his confidence in his own abilities probably got better. This was written in 2004. Marty was here for many years after that. We also know on the word of other Insiders that in later years here, Marty would sometimes make choices the scouts disagreed with or had to talk him out of (trading a future first rounder to move up for Clausen, as an example).

Also helps explain why Ron Rivera would want him in Washington.

Well, he'll be coaching Greg Little, so...

They're in the Senior Bowl thread.

This is...eye opening Okay, Hurney didn't pick all the players the way, say, Bobby Beathard picked just about everybody who played for the Redskins in those four Super Bowls. "I am not," Hurney said in a conversation yesterday, "an evaluator at all." But he did have critical input in identifying and hiring John Fox, the head coach. "He does get involved with personnel," said Beathard, Hurney's mentor and the man who facilitated the transition from covering an NFL team to running one. "He's a great guy to sit around when the scouts are in and he gets the conversation going. But I don't think he's pushy or thinks he has the experience to make those decisions." Hurney is a facilitator, a consensus builder, an administrator who can pull together all manner of resources, start a very democratic process that works well for the Panthers, then sit with the coach and owner and come to sharp, well-reasoned decisions. The above excerpt comes from a profile of Marty that was written by Michael Wilbon in 2004 when the Panthers were headed to the Super Bowl. You can read the full article at the link below: Marty Hurney makes good copy

I hear someone's working on translating that book

I think that's a lot of us.

I would say this for Jones: It's a good choice on his part to go to the Senior Bowl. When the perception is that you might have been carried by the superior talent on your team, putting yourself in a position to show otherwise is smart. (if you succeed)

The two of them being taken higher than pick #8 would be an extreme shock.

I'm not a fan of either one. But of course, if one of them ends up being our pick, I'll hope for the best.

Yeah but come on, he only had fifteen years, a Super Bowl trophy and several trips to the playoffs. Big deal, right?

If the Panthers staff winds up liking Jones or Trask, things could be a lot of fun here come Draft Day.

Latest from Schefter...

When we were staffing last year, he was a guy I hoped we'd look at for the OL coach spot, so I'm good with it.

Just for reference, this was that same site's list for who would be the next Panthers head coach a year ago. Greg Roman +300 Jason Garrett +550 Robert Saleh +700 Dan Quinn +750 Jim Harbaugh +750 Josh McDaniels +800 David Shaw +900 Mike McCarthy +1200 Urban Meyer +1200 Jay Gruden +1400 Doug Marrone +1600 Mike LaFleur +1600 Marvin Lewis +1800 Pat Shurmur +1800 Doug Pederson +2000 Bill Cowher +2500 Oddsmakers do pretty well at picking point spreads. When it comes to personnel moves, not so much.

Washington fans are starting to feel the same way.

Starting to think our GM search made an impression on the Eagles. They're up to nine candidates for their head coaching job, the latest being Saints DC Dennis Allen.

Also true that there wasn't a GM inbetween Jones and Johnson.

Remember Burns was almost Little. Have mercy, what a disaster that would have been.

As I recall, the downfall started when Jones got drunk and started saying stuff like the roster was so talented he could win with Barry Switzer. And while technically he did, I don't really think anybody would say he came out on the winning end of that argument in the long term.

As long as we don't have Jerry Jones 2.0, I'm fine with that comparison.

Washington fan perspective... I'm pretty sure most of us have wished Rivera the best. We may have hated his coaching but we all thought he was a good guy.