Mr. Scot

So now if the story doesn't fit your narrative, they must be lying? Seriously, dude If you look back at posts I made prior to the thread, you'll see I wasn't on board with trading for Darnold. I was willing to accept it if it happened though, and it did, so I have. And yes, I'm hopeful it works because that's what's best for us. I don't know if it will. Neither do you, but you're emotional about it regardless. As to why I'm hopeful, among other things... - They did their homework - They're professionals - They're not Marty I know some people here will be ready to burn everything down and throw away anything with the Panthers logo on it if the team doesn't take the guy they want in the draft. I'm a little too old for that and I've seen that scenario happen way too many times, so if it happens again I'll do what I always do and hope it works out. If it doesn't, then that becomes the next discussion.

And some guys throw a laser when they shouldn't.

We didn't ask the Jets about number two. In fact, nobody did. I've read the stories about how the conversations actually went. From your responses, it doesn't sound like you have. I'd suggest you should.

Edge rushers from Florida State frequently don't work out either, but we took one. They think it's likely enough to give it a shot. And no, it's not a last resort. They chose this. It not being what you or I would have done doesn't necessarily doom it to failure.

"Unless they're idiots, they must also know he's a long shot", i.e. "If they don't agree with my take on him, they must be idiots."

Not even close. I'm answering your suggestion that you absolutely know how things are going to play out with the truth that neither of us does. Also pointing out that your belief the team views Darnold a certain way has very little basis in fact.

Arm strength isn't Teddy's biggest issue. Lack of testicular fortitude is

It's not a huge investment, but it's not exactly a small investment either. What people seem unable to wrap their heads around is that the team's braintrust chose this path. It wasn't forced on them and nobody came out of it thinking "well, I guess we didn't have any other options". I'm amazed at how many people really don't seem to get that the team doesn't necessarily look at their players the same way the fans do.

I expect the team to look at all options, just like they did when they chose Darnold.

I've mentioned before that the whole "this must be what the team thinks of him because it's what I think of him" line of thinking is a fallacy. You're indulging in that pretty heavily here.

You may not realize this, but the draft doesn't actually allow you to pick two players at once. When the time comes the team is going to have to prioritize one player over another (all others, in fact).

Fans go nuts for a guy that can throw the ball 60 yards, but arm strength is the most overrated quality there is. It's not about being able to throw it a mile or throw it so hard you break somebody's fingers. It's about being able to throw it to a particular spot and make it catchable.

We're definitely not "one player away" which is a big reason why I think it's silly to bring in yet another quarterback rather than addressing other needs.

Also, "chill".

Height doesn't really bother me so much if a guy shows he can play. Weighing less than the average high school baseball player does give me a little bit of pause.

The tone is incredibly harsh. I'm used to seeing scouts say "he does this well, this not so much, etc etc" but this? Ouch. Granted he could turn out to be right, but damn

There's a former... Jets... head coach up in New England that's not doing too bad. This whole idea that somebody who was previously part of a bad organization is necessarily bad themselves is a really dumb concept.

But the guaranteed, can't-miss, super franchise quarterback that'll take us to the promised land regardless of whether we protect him or not does, right?

So you think he's just going to ignore Fitterer's opinion? Again, I don't know whether Darnold is going to succeed or not, but what I do know is that for the first time in a long time, we have a GM who actually has a scouting background. I also know, from reading the details of the process, that they didn't just throw a dart at a dart board. Darnold's name came up right after they lost out on Matthew Stafford, and they've given him an extremely thorough look. Yeah, I know a lot of the Huddle thanks this is just a desperate backup ploy, but the facts just don't support that at all. And while I realize having people put their knee jerk / hot take reactions on hold is a lot to ask around here, that's what I'm doing right now. Darnold wasn't real high on my list either, but I am actually willing to give him a chance. (and there are a lot of indications that the team is too)

Not that familiar with him so I looked him up. This is Atwell.

You realize Scott Fitterer wasn't here last year, right?

I'm gonna kinda guess they disagree.

Every regular season: "Why don't we have a better offensive line? Every following offseason: "We don't really need to take a tackle in the first round." Lather, rinse, repeat...

Not a huge fan of them myself, but a couple of these receivers weigh less than some of my receiver teammates did in high school

I have no idea if Darnold will be good, but I find the people who are absolutely certain they know one way or another to be pretty funny.