Mr. Scot

Doesn't mean I can't talk about it, or that I have to support it.

From Joe Person's summary in The Athletic... Carolina Panthers owner David Tepper said he does possess patience despite firing three coaches in-season since buying the team. Boy, If that line doesn't say it all

It's far from a unanimous take, and that includes among trusted sources. You can also go back to the discussion that was had around draft time and see differences as well. And if we're being both on a stand realistic, the notion that some wanted Stroud while others wanted young is a whole lot easier to believe then this idea that there was unanimous consensus Young was the best choice. That kind of thing is pretty rare in football organizations.

Our version of play action. And "half-assed" is honestly a pretty good description

And as a general rule, opposing defenses don't tend to get fooled by it

So we lowly fans should all just sit back and accept that our billionaire owner runs a sh-tty team and be happy that we're getting to watch football regardless of whether it's good or not? Thanks for the suggestion, but I think I'll decline. I don't think anybody here is of the mind that conversing on a message board is going to change anything, but it's what fans do in a sport talk forum.

Pretty sure nobody believes that it was Tepper versus everybody. The idea that coaches preferred Stroud while scouts preferred Young and Tepper wound up tipping the balance isn't exactly farfetched though.

To be clear, I'm not defending Reich. The system mismatch with our personnel has been one of my pet peeves all season. I'm just not a big fan of front office interference in coaching, but when the coaching is failing I get that stuff is gonna happen. As to Russini, One of her big points was that leadership was satisfied with the construction of the roster in all areas except offense, the area that was supposed to be Frank's thing. If that's correct, that means they might see the problem as strictly coaching.

I get the part about alignment, but that doesn't necessarily mean two people have to be hired together. It just means they have to work well together. Mind you, I would have no problem with hiring a coach and GM together, as long as the GM is the one hired first. Coaches picking their GM sucks. As far as the roster, I can tell you from reporting that Tepper feels the roster is well constructed as far as defense and special teams, only the offense is an issue, and that of course was Frank Reich's area. The impression I get from that is that Tepper may not be looking to make major changes to the front office.

There's also a thing as too much collaboration. And to be clear, if the vibe from her articles is correct it doesn't sound like Scott Fitterer is likely to be fired because it would mean he's in lockstep with the owner. Hard to say at this point, but that's what I get from her reporting.

Unfortunately, that's a definite possibility

It's more that I know when somebody I'm debating doesn't know what they're talking about Oh, and this sort of answer is classic Sanjay

Russini's articles made it pretty clear it was people in authority.

That's kind of the point. When you have a sh-tty organization, good players with better options will do exactly that. Now, you can rage and lecture players about being spoiled and try to convince them that they should just suck it up and come work here rather than somewhere better because reasons, or you can actually try to make the organization better so that good players and coaches will want to come here. I'll give you three guesses which of those options tends to be more effective...

I don't think it's deliberate. System mismatch just seems to be Reich's most common error.

I don't think it's just Tepper. It's not at all unusual to occasionally hear that coaches pushed for certain personnel or draft picks. With our personnel though, it feels like I've heard an inordinate amount of that sort of thing. Some personnel people don't like having coaches interfere in scouting. It's understood that they set the systems and such, but they're not always good with evaluating players.

I get that. I just feel like it's equivalent to having an accountant try and help you fix your plumbing

In her most recent reports from The Athletic, Dianna Russini has been talking about the front office and ownership like they were a single unit. If that means that Fitterer is in lockstep with Tepper, then yes I can see him staying.

Pro scouts tend to scout opponents. Self-scouting is typically assigned to quality control coaches, not personnel people.

Chris Tabor's explanation today seemed to be that they felt Young having essentially two quarterback coaches (Josh McCown and passing game coordinator Parks Frazier) was too much. Thus, they parted ways with McCown, which I'm going to guess is a Jim Caldwell decision. He'd have some connection with Frazier from the past I believe. If he said anything about Duce Staley though, I missed it. Might have to go back and listen again

It's kind of twofold... Reich not wanting to incorporate something that might help his quarterback is consistent with his asking offensive line personnel to run a blocking scheme that doesn't fit their skill set. Both are baffling decisions coming from someone who stated up front that he wanted to build the system around the players, not vice versa. It sounds like in reality the system was king. That's just not a good way to operate. On the flipside, I'm also not a fan of personnel people interfering in coaching matters, especially if it comes down from the top. Dianna Russini has consistently conflated Tepper and the front office in her recent reporting, which gives me the impression Scott Fitterer might be safe. If he's serving as a "trickle down" for Tepper's ideas though, that's not good.

Bozeman is having to adjust for having one, and frequently two, poor guards beside him. Ickey would be better as a guard for the very simple reason that he would have blockers on either side of him rather than having to go wide, something that isn't his strength. The Saints protected Drew Brees well by having three very solid interior blockers rather than just good tackles. That's extremely important for a shorter quarterback like we have.

Disagree completely. They asked very good questions. They got poor answers.

Yeah, I think that's a reach. This presser didn't really give me any sort of vibe on what they plan to do with the front office.

You're not getting it, dude. How you feel about their feelings doesn't really matter. What does is that they have other options and would rather play somewhere else. The gist of that is not that they're crybabies, it's that The owner is running a sh-tty organization. The people hurt most by that? Us