Mr. Scot

I think what ultimately doomed Frank is that he wanted to take a slow approach, and maybe wasn't as hard on players as he should have been. Now with that said, I don't see how anybody could win in an environment that encourages the kind of bullsh-t we're hearing about.

Which is a shame because it's inevitable you're also going to be throwing out some good people along with the bad. But yeah...

My thing would be leave that to the next head coach. It's a nice idea, but ownership meddling in the staff building process is part of why we are where we are now.

I don't think there's any other option at this point... Seriously

I'd agree

That's not at all how a professional adult operates though. If you have issues with somebody, you go to that person. Running to the boss just screams selfish, out for themselves person.

I mean, the good side of it would be that with all this coming out, Tepper has to fix things now, right? Right?

I like Campen and Tabor both, but with stuff like this, how could a new coach feel comfortable keeping them? Hell, how would anybody feel comfortable hiring them if this stuff is true?

With the stuff we're hearing from Dianna Russini today, I'm no longer sure it even matters who we drafted. Hell, we had a great offensive line built last year but look at things now.

Similar feelings...and I was here through both 2001 and 2010.

...which comes from thinking you're the smartest guy in the room and nobody can challenge you. Said previously the "talking to too many people" thing makes it seem like Tepper believes he knows what he's doing and maybe just needs occasional advice from people to confirm his thinking. This goes even further and makes it sound like he gets ideas from articles or videos he sees online. Lord almighty

Or the "leverage" choice. There's going to need to be some really radical changes for us to be seen as an attractive job.

Got that, and that just makes it worse. Lord, what a mess

Yeah, this article doesn't help the perception of Bryce Young at all.

Yeah, there's no choice now. My thing was I wanted to give Fitterer and Reich time to work together to build the team, but Reich is gone now and as it turns out, they weren't even working together anyway. This is worse than I even imagined (and I've got a pretty good imagination).

I definitely don't think it's gonna be that simple, not with stuff like this coming out... This is a nightmare

Basically running an NFL franchise like an NFL fan would... I already thought it was bad, but damn

Or just stays the hell out of it altogether

Good leaders tend to either tell people who do things like that to go directly to the person they have issues with or sit down with the two of them together. Doesn't sound like Tepper did either of those things.

Regarding Ben Johnson... The Panthers need someone who can get Young untracked and playing closer to the level of Texans rookie C.J. Stroud, Young’s friend and former AAU basketball rival in southern California. Tepper again is expected to focus his search on coaches with offensive backgrounds, with Detroit Lions offensive coordinator Ben Johnson — who canceled his interview with the Panthers last year — viewed as a top target. Johnson is a native of Asheville, N.C., who played at North Carolina. But it might not be easy to lure him to Charlotte: Some in the Panthers’ organization, according to a league source, have been texting Johnson about how complicated it’s been to work in Carolina this season. While Tepper prepares to start another coaching search and Reich, Staley and McCown contemplate their next moves, the players and remaining coaches will try to avoid becoming the first 1-16 team since the NFL adopted a 17-game schedule. “I can honestly say I don’t think (Reich) was the sole problem and everything is fixed now,” Chark said. “We’ve still got a lot of stuff we have to fix.” ... Sounds like it might be more than just Duce Staley

And this... h’s efforts to boost Young’s confidence — some players viewed as overprotectiveness — continued through what turned out to be Reich’s final offensive play with the Panthers at Tennessee. Trailing by 7 and facing a fourth-and-6 at the two-minute warning, Young saw the Titans line up in what he believed to be Cover 0 — man coverage with no deep defender — and checked to a wide receiver screen to DJ Chark. Chark caught the ball four yards behind the line of scrimmage and was tackled for no gain by safety Amani Hooker, allowing the Titans to reclaim possession and run out the clock. After the game, Reich said it was the right check by Young and that Chark might have gotten too far behind the line of scrimmage. A clearly agitated Chark insisted the Titans were not in Cover 0 and the Panthers should have stuck with the original play call. A former NFL head coach agreed, saying the Titans fooled Young into thinking they were in Cover 0 before dropping their backside safety to the post area. That the postgame spotlight fell on one of the receivers was not a new development. The group’s difficulties getting open has been a season-long narrative. “I don’t think we got the brunt of coaches’ criticism. But I do feel like we do get a lot of the blame when it comes to the success of the offense,” Chark said last week. “Obviously, when you talk about offense, the first thing that we say (is), ‘You’ve gotta give Bryce weapons,’ and things like that.” ...is not a good look for Bryce

My guess would be temper saw the headlines about how Brian Daboll assembled his staff in New York and thought "hey, why don't we do that?" Turned out to be a disaster. Hell, it's not even looking so good in New York anymore.

Well, this sounds familiar... There also have been issues with scheme fits. Brown’s background is with the Rams’ mid-zone and wide-zone runs, which weren’t a great match for some of the Panthers’ offensive linemen. Right guard Austin Corbett ran the scheme during three seasons in L.A., including the Rams’ Super Bowl season of 2021. But Corbett missed the first six games this year while recovering from ACL surgery, then injured his MCL in the same knee against Dallas in Week 11 and was lost for the season. Center Bradley Bozeman conceded his more bruising skill set wasn’t ideal for the wide zone, best suited for quicker linemen who can occupy defensive linemen early in the play and then get to the second level. “Running downhill is what I love to do,” Bozeman said. “That’s what I’ve made my money on. Unfortunately, we didn’t have many opportunities to do that.”

More: The Panthers’ defensive assistants, nearly all of whom had worked with Evero previously, have been more aligned, according to sources. But that has not been the case on the offensive side. At one point, several coaches wanted to bench Young in favor of Dalton, who had the Panthers’ only 300-yard passing game when Young missed the Week 3 game at Seattle with an ankle injury. But those conversations never reached Reich, Fitterer or ownership, according to high-ranking team sources. Other coaches felt they couldn’t voice their opinions without being viewed as malcontents. Several sources said Reich would call out Young for mistakes during team-wide film reviews — as he did other players — early in the season but backed off in recent weeks, with Young’s confidence in mind. “You can coach a player hard,” said one staffer, “without killing his spirit.” But one player said it wasn’t Reich’s nature or coaching style to be overly critical of any player or position group.

This article pretty much indicates he stabbed Reich in the back.