Mr. Scot

I think it's very possible Russell Wilson may have influenced his thinking. Also can't help feeling the whole bit about Reich "overprotecting" Young gives me Pete Carroll-Russell Wilson vibes.

There's no way you can keep him now, not with a story out there that he was talking to the owner about Frank behind his back. No head coach is going to want to work in that kind of environment.

Oy

Yeah, that's a pretty clear sign that Tepper is not exactly "beloved".

I definitely think at some point he mentally checked out. Given the situation, it'd be hard not to. The only question is when It happened.

Jones didn't mention her either. And bottom line for me, I don't really care what her level of involvement is. Dave is bad enough on his own. He doesn't need anybody's help.

The GM did, and that's per his own words. Scouting staff apparently agreed. I'm not so sure in McCown did though, and Frank might not have either until the GM "helped" him (per Jonathan Jones).

Oh I think it's possible. Hell, a lot of owners stay away from the media just because they don't want to hear the negatives. We know from his own admissions though that Tepper does not. He is fully aware of how he's perceived, and he doesn't like it.

Wouldn't call it "coming to terms" so much as new information. My ideal situation would have had Fitterer and Reich being given more time to build the team together. That went out the window when Reich was fired, so from that point on I stopped caring whether they kept Fitterer or not. Hearing what we're hearing now though, It doesn't sound like they were ever actually "working together" to begin with. In fact, it sounds more like Fitterer helped sabotage him. Jones mentioned some NFL executives think the proper move would have been to fire Fitterer and keep Reich. Not sure that would have worked either at this point, unless Frank were allowed to remake his staff with only his own choices.

To be fair, she might not know anything about the story that's come out today. I'd be willing to bet a years salary Dave does though, and he's probably fuming about it.

I don't know whether she thinks anything like that. Don't honestly care. Dave by himself is bad enough.

That's one incident, and a minor one compared to the whole "madam" thing. Point was he was a hotheaded a--hole prone to emotional decisions. He'd have been awful.

I'm really not. Spartanburg was hot as hell. (though you could argue that might have been good for the players) Actually believed the idea of putting a practice facility in Fort Mill or Rock Hill was a good one. Even using the old Heritage USA space might have made some sense. The execution of those ideas though...left something to be desired

Mentioned it elsewhere but it likely applies here as well... Jones says that Fitterer "helped Reich make the decision to draft Young over C.J. Stroud". Lots of different ways that could go, but most of them not good.

I forget who, but someone mentioned Jansen as a guy Rhule wanted to get rid of because he saw through the bullsh-t.

Yep, though that was a long time ago when my body still worked

Well from all accounts, Jon wasn't insane. His being dead kind of limits that particular option though

That's assuming people still want to do that

Heard that story too... Mark was definitely not the answer.

Today might not be the best day to do that

Also this from Jones ... Fitterer...helped Reich make the decision to draft Young over C.J. Stroud "Helped" More recently, I've started to believe that Fitterer may have been the driving force behind convincing Tupper that Bryce Young was the right pick. We heard rumors back around draft time that Reich preferred Stroud. McCown also seemed to be of that disposition. But whether Tepper preferred young himself (or was persuaded to), Fitterer convinced Reich to change his mind or just held the trump card that Tepper was on his side in the decision, the end result would be the same.

Things that are easy to see for average folks aren't always so easy to see for billionaires with big egos.

From a previous employee, Mark Richardson once threw a massive temper tantrum (and may have even threatened to fire somebody) over someone leaving a newspaper in the wrong place. I feel pretty comfortable saying Mark would have been an unmitigated disaster. Jon might actually have done okay, but he passed away so...

More from Jones: It’s rare, but most NFL teams would be much better off if their owners entrusted a sharp team president to run the organization, including the hiring of the general managers and head coaches and selection of players. If they could keep their fingers out of things and let the true experts work together without the threat of meddling or fear-induced power struggles, then maybe, just maybe, the owners would receive a greater return on their investments. But “that’s no fun,” one AFC front-office exec said, when asked why so few owners utilize such an approach.

Now this from Jonathan Jones Some of the one-and-done firings were justifiable, others were not. But all reflect a common truth: Most NFL owners have no clue what they’re doing. For all of their business success, many NFL owners have no idea how to run their teams, and in general they’re awful when it comes to hiring head football coaches. That’s why we see so many ill-fitting marriages, such fruitless efforts and short tenures. Yes, there are some owners who know how to evaluate talent or can identify potential coaches with strong leadership, communication, organizational, motivational and strategic skills. But the majority? Shoot. Most owners are nothing more than billionaires playing real-life fantasy football. They guess here, follow popular opinion there. Then they roll the dice and hope they’ve gotten it right. Tepper perfectly embodies the problem with NFL owners. The highly successful hedge fund manager had learned a little about the league during nine years as a minority owner of the Steelers. But that knowledge obviously was limited, because in his six seasons as the Panthers’ majority owner, Carolina has exhibited not one ounce of the stability and shrewd decision-making for which the Steelers are known. Instead, Tepper now is looking for his fourth head coach since 2019. He just tabbed special teams coach Chris Tabor as his second interim head coach in two seasons and his third in five years.