Mr. Scot

This I would agree with. Offenses now are becoming increasively complex, and league rules are no longer allowing defenses to just beat people up.

Again, can't agree. It's all about combinations. Rivera / Gettleman worked. And I'd love to have seen what would have happened had they been able to continue working off that 2017 draft. Rivera / Hurney didn't work. Gettleman / Shurmur didn't work. Whatever working chemistry those two had just didn't transfer to anybody else. Maybe it was the combination of nice and nasty that had a happy medium.

Not as a head coach. Don't know if he still lives in Charlotte but I'd probably take him as a linebacker coach.

Can't agree. Dave made bad moves just like Marty made good moves, but It's the overall result that matters. And what can't be argued is that when Rivera / Gettleman ran things we had the most successful era of Panthers football ever, including a historic season.

I gotta feeling the Bears job belongs to Harbaugh. If not him though, someone else likely takes it this year.

I don't know wizardry it was, but Rivera and Gettleman worked really well together. Neither of them found success apart. Richardson fired Gettleman after what was probably his best draft. I'll always wonder what could have been if he hadn't been so dead set on bringing Marty back.

Word also that Teddy Bridgewater is retiring.

This likely means the end for Hurney as well. Marty got his start in Washington under Bobby Beathard. He'll finish his career where it begin.

The nostalgia to have former players like Newton and Olsen come back and save us is fun and all, but...no. There are a million things that a team president does that have nothing to do with football. That's why it's the kind of thing you ideally work your way up to.

Telesco was actually with the Panthers scouting department in the beginning (1995-1997). He's got a pretty good reputation, but no connection to David Tepper that I know of.

Pretty heavy rumors about him going to the Commanders...

I'd say it also has to do with the question of who we can get (and who we can't)

On coaching...

Or try to make a big splash. I've wondered if he might try to make Catherine Raiche the NFL's first female GM for PR reasons. Whether or not she's good? Don't know enough to say except she's risen to an assistant GM role in Cleveland.

Irsay then replaced him with Jeff Saturday. He pushed to keep Saturday during their coaching search too. People were scared to death he wouldn't let go.

It turned out to be like the Dolphins and Eagles "all star teams" from a few years back...lots of great players that didn't work well together.

Which part?

He's gonna have to. Guaranteed contract, full control...that's what Lynch and Shanahan got. Hard to imagine Peters taking anything less.

Two of those years were with Matt Rhule, and then all the dysfunction of this year thrown in. But it doesn't matter now. He backstabbed the coach. There's no way in hell you can keep him.

Sounds like he reads the Huddle

FYI: Can't see it in my post of course, but there's a link within that article to this article... The reasons why David Tepper ultimately fired Frank Reich Very informative article if you haven't seen it...

From his latest mailbag.(Link) From Justin Mason (@Masonjt24): Do you think Adam Peters could replace Scott [Fitterer] in Carolina at season end? Justin, it’s hard, at this point, to envision very many people surviving in Carolina after how this season has gone. I think Fitterer is a solid general manager, and he’s been on the job for only three years, which is a short period over which to evaluate someone in his spot. That said, there was a little tell in how owner David Tepper handled the firing of Frank Reich that can give a little insight into where he might take his franchise next. Tepper could’ve used the opportunity to audition Thomas Brown or Ejiro Evero for the job. Instead, he turned to special teams coordinator Chris Tabor. Part of that is it’s what’s least disruptive to the staff in-season. But another could be that it made what happened last year less likely. And that’s not to say Tepper didn’t want his team to catch fire like it did under Steve Wilks last year. Instead, it could mean Tepper was looking ahead toward blowing things up and didn’t want to be under pressure, again, to elevate an interim coach to full-time status. If he then had his eye on starting over with the coaching staff, it stands to reason Tepper may well want to turn the page in a more complete way on his football operation. If he does that, yes, Peters would be a good candidate, as someone who has interviewed there before and has experience going to Super Bowls with the Patriots, Broncos and 49ers through his two-decade career as a personnel man. ... Personally still don't believe he'll leave his "dream job" (especially not for an organization as dysfunctional as ours) but you never know.

He reportedly wants to have the all-time win record before he retires. Not sure I'd pick our organization if that's my goal.

As far as influences, but Brown wrote the plays. That's per Brown himself. Frank put him on a position he wasn't really ready for. Mind you, it's not a bad thing to give somebody an opportunity, but if they aren't ready for it then this is the kind of thing that happens.