Mr. Scot

Yep. We were interested, but apparently not as interested as they were. It's not as safe a choice as Carr would have been, but it's definitely a less expensive one. I'm good with it.

You're about to go off on another angry rent, aren't you? You posted one report that goes against what everybody else is saying and now you're mad that people aren't taking that report more seriously than they are the numerous others. Somehow this seems rational to you.

Well, given that it sounds like he's probably signing with the Saints, I wouldn't hold my breath on that.

Truer than your posts given that they come from people with actual knowledge

Again dude, this is just your opinion. If I'm choosing who to believe between you and Frank Reich, I gotta tell you there's no contest.

It would seem that in yours, words only matter if they're saying what you want them to say. In reality, everybody else's words are different than Smith's words. You choose to believe Smith because he's saying what you want to hear. I choose not to because, again he's not an investigative reporter and it's highly unlikely that his statement (coming from someone with an agenda) is more truthful than a dozen others with none. I get why you'd want a frame me as doing what it is you're actually doing, but I think it's pretty clear everyone can see that.

That's your opinion. I get it. Mine is that when it comes to these decisions, I trust the people we currently have making them. If they decide they want Carr, I'm on board.

"All the other sources are wrong. Only Smith is telling the truth." Yeah, sure

The irony is strong in this one

Reich's reported argument for bringing Wentz to the Colts was that he believed he could "fix" him (he later acknowledged that was a mistake). If you've seen the comments from his combine presser, Reich isn't talking about "fixing" Carr.

Believing what the evidence tells you and believing what you want to believe aren't the same thing either. Between the NFLPA encouraging Jackson to stick to his guns with regard to a fully guaranteed contract and pretty much every source outside of Steven A Smith confirming that's what he wants, If you still think that's not what he's asking for, you're wearing blinders.

Yeah, Wentz and Carr's situations are pretty much nothing alike.

Dude, even the NFLPA pretty much confirmed it.

If you think there are no other sources reporting that Jackson wants a fully guaranteed contract, well...

The idea of Steven A being right and pretty much everybody else being wrong is a little too farfetched for me.

Reich apparently does.

Stephen A Smith is pretty much the only guy who's said that and it became pretty obvious that Jackson's camp was using him as a mouthpiece. Smith isn't exactly what you'd call a journalist.

That would make it pretty clear they're serious. Person speculated that it's Frank Reich driving the interest. Looking at it from the outside, that would seem to make sense. I know Fitterer prefers the draft and develop route but Reich was pretty effusive about Carr in his combine presser.

We never got confirmation of what the offer actually was but I do remember someone saying the offer wasn't as impressive as fans might have believed.

Doesn't seem too likely. I know fans love the idea of being bold and trading up to #1, but being smart is more important than being bold.

Also, according to Peter King, the market may not be what people think. If a team wants Jackson, it’s disguising its intentions well. I couldn’t find legit evidence of one in Indianapolis, talking to GMs and coaches and other club officials. There may be one (Jets? Falcons?) but I couldn’t find it. And if the Ravens put the non-exclusive tag on Jackson, good luck in forcing him to play in 2023 for $32 million ($4.2 million less than Ryan Tannehill’s slated cap number) after visions of jillions have been dancing in his head.

I don't, primarily because Scott Fitterer has yet to show any willingness to trade away first rounders. He puts a lot of value on those picks. It's also been said that we like nearly all of the top prospects so a trade to #1 wouldn't be necessary to get a guy we want. Going to #3 or #5 would probably be enough. Mind you, all this is pending whether we pursue Derek Carr or not.

I wouldn't bet on that. It's possible we're one of the teams that spoke to them to gauge the price, but I don't believe we'd give that up.

From what I've read, there doesn't seem to be any indication so far that the Panthers are exploring this as an option.