Mr. Scot

Hall of Fame linebacker Sam Huff had a story about Brown (related to me by a longtime Browns fan)... Brown took a handoff and got stuffed for little to no gain by Huff, who followed up the play by telling Brown "You stink!" Next play? Same result, and again with a little more emphasis, Huff said "Man, you STINK!" He was feeling pretty good right about that time. On the next play though, Brown blew past him and ran for a 79 yard touchdown. On the way to the end zone, Brown turned around and asked a pursuing Huff, "How do I smell from here, mother&@#$er?"

This ruined it for me... Mind you, I'm not discrediting the rest of the article. It's a good one. Just hated reading that phrase. Reminds me that Callihan was a Rhule homer while he was on the hot seat.

There are limits to that, though. Like for one, you're not going to pay an assistant more than your head coach. Plus sometimes it's genuinely not about the money. For some guys, being a head coach Is their ultimate dream.

It might have been because he got screwed over. McDaniels was set to get some head coaching interviews (including one with us) but Belichick reportedly made him stay behind to do some end of season work that probably wasn't really all that necessary. In the meantime, we hired Rhule without even interviewing McDaniels. As I recall, other hires happened quickly as well. (Bill's always been a Machiavellian type, so that's not really hard to believe) I know there was speculation at the time that Belichick had deliberately delayed him to keep him from going elsewhere. Up to that point, most believed that McDaniels would succeed Belichick, but then that changed. That could still happen I suppose, but not if there's hard feelings.

Receiving corps, including both receivers and tight ends...

Brown's had head coaching interviews already. He was considered a hot head coaching candidate prior to joining us, in part because of the Sean McVay connection.

Not a fanboy thing. I agreed with the trade. It's simple logic that better players make better teams. Unfortunately for us, a sh-tty coaching staff can negate the effect.

Look back at Rayzor's response. He got it.

Outside of one season, our win-loss record under Cam Newton's leadership was nothing to brag about. Is that on Newton? And none of what I'm discussing has to do with spending money. That's already acknowledged. I'm talking strictly about McCaffrey as a player. Suggesting that this or any team isn't better with someone like him on the roster is ludicrous.

Putting that on him (or any individual player) is invalid, especially under Rhule.

I have fond memories of his tenure as the Jets head coach

You'd be correct. That's kind of the point though. You can't necessarily predict a coach's success by where he was before. Sometimes guys who come out of great situations fail (See: Belichick Coaching Tree) while guys who come out of bad situations succeed (McVay, Payton and others).

Did all of our new coaches come from championship teams? (hell, out head coach was fired from a sh-tty team)

Correct.

Asking any player to compensate for the team being lousy at quarterback is a stretch. Using that standard to measure their value is completely wrong. Can you win without a guy like that? If your team is good enough, sure. Can you lose with a guy like that? If your team is bad enough, again yes, and the past few years Panthers are proof of that. Bottom Line: Using the quality of the overall team to measure any single player's value is invalid, same as trying to make wins and losses a quarterback stat. But the simple fact is that any team who has him is a better team because of it. Denying that is kind of silly.

Baldinger has Ejiro Evero on his primary list and includes Thomas Brown as an honorable mention. I don't necessarily think we lose both coordinators in one offseason like the Eagles did, but the possibility of staff leaving for promotions is likely higher than it used to be. (and a bigger deal, as well)

I get not overpaying for him, but any suggestion that we aren't a better team with a player like that on the roster is pure fantasy. And any GM in the league would tell you that. We misused him, we overpaid him, we didn't have good enough blocking for him, we had absolutely awful coaching and in the end made the right decision to trade him, but having a player of that caliber makes a team better.

Pretty much. Funny thing is the last head coach he had here is now in San Francisco with him.

I have. They're very different quarterbacks. If you want to see quarterbacks that play like Favre, watch someone like John Elway or our own Cam Newton.

Eeehhh, not really. He had a couple of nice highlights but he was wildly inconsistent.

Neither of the legacy guys (Proehl or Greene) I was kinda hoping at least one might make it.

Only thing I've seen...

Yep. Phenomenal player...terrible broadcaster.

Ah. Sorry, not somewhere I've ever heard of